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To: Shooter 2.5

Would you be happy that a violent person was just out of the house, or would you follow them to their car and make sure they were on their way out of there? If this person was trying to take the children, shoving and punching an 80 year old man, I wouldn’t have been happy to have him just out the front door. Plus, you don’t know if he was going to his car to get a gun himself.

No, the man was right to follow him to his car and make sure he was on his way.


34 posted on 12/27/2008 6:24:54 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Not according to any of my firearms instructors.

The report of pushing the grandfather out of the way is a one sided opinion. you added “punching”.

There was a legal agreement from both parents where the father had every legal right to take the kids for a visit. The grandfather and the mother violated that legal agreement.


38 posted on 12/27/2008 6:33:57 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: autumnraine

Other than the assertions of the the person who shot him and that man’s daughter what is the evidence that the man who was killed was in any way violent? Most abusers don’t just go off once. There is a history. There is mention of additional calls to the police but not what was said or which party they were calling about.

You may automatically want to believe that the man is at fault but having, on various occasions, been punched, slapped, spat on and dodged a cup of hot coffee I can tell you it isn’t always so.

There are a lot of questions that need to be asked before we condemn anyone; such as what was the nature of the relationship, had there been past violence? If so, initiated by whom? What was the nature of the custody agreement and each party’s rights under that agreement?

I think we should all just cool off until all of the facts are brought out.


54 posted on 12/27/2008 7:02:17 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: autumnraine

Once again, where is the proof that the grandfather was punched, his word against a dead man’s.


145 posted on 12/27/2008 11:20:49 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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