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To: Cyber Liberty
Of the three legs of the 'Axis of Evil', how many are left?
Two. Would you have preferred to see the US invade four countries simultaneously, or none in the first place?


Four invasions were not necessary. Iran could have been choked off early in the game had the United States exercised it's influence on a global scale by forcing other nations to choose between diplomatic and economic relations with the United States, or continuing to do business with the rogue regime in Iran. We could have literally forced Iran out of the United Nations had we played our cards right, by establishing a government-in-exile, be it by the son of the late Shah or some other political group, and given the U.N. an ultimatum: either expel Iran and grant official standing to the exile group, or the U.N. could pack up and get their asses out of the U.S. That's a simple black and white choice that the majority of Americans would have applauded. That's just one way we could have isolated and put an end to the Iranian regime. If we opted for military intervention, dropping a 1 meg nuke on (for example) the city of Tabriz (the Assahollah's home town) would have sent a message to each and every Iranian that if they didn't move fast to string up the mullahs and Ahmadinejerk and install a new regime, that they would all be enjoying the summer at Iran's new 'Green Glowing Sandy Beach'. The Persian mindset post-Khomeini has evolved into a delusional state which believes they are impervious and invulnerable to any and every outside threat. The little runt in charge right now has fed that belief at every opportunity. Iran NEEDS a major smackdown, and if we had a President who could back up his big-balls talk, with some big-balls action, Iran would already be well on the way to reestablishing itself as a force for stability as it was under the Shah, not as a threat to it's neighbors.

As for North Korea, the United States bought into the illusion that Pyongyang could be dealt with as with any other foreign power. Kim Jong Il is every bit as corrupt as Romania's former despot Ceauşescu, unfortunately the North Korean people have no real means of overthrowing him. If the U.S. had responded to their pipsqueak 'nuke test' in October 2006 with a precision air strike on the test facility, the chaos resulting would very likely have seen Kim Jong Il dangling from a wire like Mussolini.

All we needed to accomplish these things was sufficient resolve at the top of the chain of command.
34 posted on 12/27/2008 11:48:04 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

I think sealing the borders would have been preferable to the invasion of Iraq and a lot cheaper in manpower and $. That being said, I am glad that Iraq may be approaching a degree of freedom. But overall, the U.S. hasn’t been able to do that much to stem tyranny.


40 posted on 12/27/2008 8:27:10 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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