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To: AmericanMade1776

You said — “Once again, if President George W. Bush is so hated, then why was he elected President of the United States TWICE? the media just makes up crAP.”

Well, there have been FReepers posting to me that hate Bush for what he has done and they are sorry that they ever voted for him.

Some cite the idea that Bush (and Cheney said recently that they would have to sacrifice free market principles in order to save the economy...

Bush says sacrificed free-market principles to save economy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2149830/posts

That has caused some hatred to be vented. Along with that goes the bailouts, too.

Then there is the immigration bill that the President supported. A lot of people vented hatred on that basis.

And then some FReepers have vented hatred because Bush is not a conservative or not conservative enough (according to what they say).

The list keeps getting bigger and bigger by the day — even around here on Free Republic. Many are glad to see Bush go, according to what I read. This doesn’t appear to be media “made-up crap” from what I read from FReepers, right here on this board.

As for me, I even still support Bush in his statements that perhaps free market principles may have to be sacrificed in order to save the economy. Sometimes emergency measures must be taken. BUT, that will generate a “lot of hate” around here.

And I support Bush for going into the war with Afghanistan and Iraq, but I don’t think the “freedom” has made a real difference in Iraq like freedom is here (and that’s because of the false and evil religion of Islam).

I don’t support Bush for what he’s doing in trying to “divide the land of Israel”, because I believe he’s totally wrong in that regard. But, I’m not hating him because of it. He’s just going to be on the wrong side of God on that issue.

Also, I think Bush is totally wrong for saying that the god of Islam is the same God that we worship in Christianity. That’s totally false — *absolutely* false. So, Bush is misleading a lot of people in that issue.

So, even as one who doesn’t hate Bush, I still see that he’s not been right on a lot of matters...


14 posted on 12/26/2008 7:17:53 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I’ll give this a shot but don’t expect mind changing.

I give him the benefit of the doubt on the issue of our God vs. Islam’s God.

Because he of all people is not craftily articulate. This is like a gut instinct with him and I think it’s based on his belief there is only one God, therefore if any worship God this is the God they are worshipping...there is no other.

Some support for this in Scripture, as well. The Apostle Paul preached a famous sermon on Mars Hill in Athens. The Athenians had statues and inscriptions to all sorts of mythological gods, by name, not to leave any of them out. Then they had an inscription “to an unknown god” just to cover THAT base. Paul stood up and said he was declaring the truth to them about that God, and proceeded to speak of the One God who created the Universe and who sent his Son Jesus Christ to save mankind from Sin.

Paul didn’t accord recognition to any of their gods, but what he did do was start with their belief in something beyond Mankind, in superior beings, and went from there to teach them.

Bush isn’t there as a secular President to teach Christianity, so he limits himself unlike the Apostle Paul who was an evangelist to the world for the Gospel of Christ.

But when asked a question about do we worship the same God as Islam, I believe he meant his statement for good, not for evil, and that he intended to show he doesn’t even consider that there are different Gods to worship. But he doesn’t know how to articulate that they worship God ignorantly and to their destruction, without insulting a large part of the world’s masses and stirring up even more terrorism, which he doesn’t want to do.

That’s my take.

I know that his statement is one of the reasons his base has rejected him.

I just think it’s one more thing he hasn’t well articulated and perhaps he didn’t even want to “go there” for the reasons I said, so his oversimplified answer has given more cause to his detractors.

So be it.

I don’t see it like the detractors see it.


23 posted on 12/26/2008 7:45:15 AM PST by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: Star Traveler; bamahead; dcwusmc; Bokababe; roamer_1
Sometimes emergency measures must be taken.

Sure, sometimes desperate measures must be taken, including but not limited to looting the taxpayers, introducing full-blown Socialism, and destroying the dollar.

Bush is a RINO failure.

I totally regret voting for him...and as long as the Republicans keep dishing up Democrat Lite Socialism, I will vote third party.

COMPASSIONATE 'CONSERVATISM' = SOCIALISM

Good riddance to rubbish.

26 posted on 12/26/2008 8:08:45 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Star Traveler
"Also, I think Bush is totally wrong for saying that the god of Islam is the same God that we worship in Christianity. That’s totally false — *absolutely* false. So, Bush is misleading a lot of people in that issue."

There is only one God, and everyone who worships is worshiping Him. The difference is humanity's opinion of His Nature.

47 posted on 12/26/2008 9:39:30 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Star Traveler
At 12:00 January 20. 2009 they will get their wish. Starting 12:01 January 20, 2009 they will begin getting what they wished, prayed, an voted for. If they can only hold out till obama takes power, he will give them what they deserve.
58 posted on 12/26/2008 12:31:24 PM PST by sport
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