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Iraqi Army Begins M1A1 Tank Training
Multi-National Force - Iraq ^ | Lt. Col. Christopher Delarosa, USA

Posted on 12/25/2008 2:13:34 PM PST by SandRat

In this Oct. 31, 2008 file photo, Iraqi Soldiers are introduced to the tanks their Army will use in the future.  Photo by Spc. Chase Kincaid, Joint Combat Camera Center Iraq.
In this Oct. 31, 2008 file photo, Iraqi Soldiers are introduced to the tanks their Army will use in the future. Photo by Spc. Chase Kincaid, Joint Combat Camera Center Iraq.

TAJI — The Iraqi Army Armor School here hosted an M1A1 tank orientation for the first group of 28 Iraqi Army M1A1 tank crewmen, Dec. 21.

The crewmen, selected from the cadre of current Iraqi Army Armor School instructors and Iraqi Army 9th Mechanized Infantry Division, will continue their orientation through Jan. 2. 

Final selectees will then participate in a three month train-the-trainer course with U.S. Army instructors at the CombatTraining Center.

Once their training is complete, the graduates will serve as instructors for the remaining Iraqi Army crews, building basic M1A1 skills prior to the arrival of their own M1A1 tanks.

This approach will allow the Iraqi Army to significantly accelerate the fielding of its new armor regiments.  The Government of Iraq purchased 140 advanced M1A1 Abrams Integrated Management Situational Awareness tanks scheduled to arrive in the fall of 2010.

“The M1A1 tank is the future of Iraq; the Soviet equipment is our past….the M1A1s will lead us into the future,” said Iraqi Army Col. Ghazi, Iraqi Army Armor School Commandant.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: frwn; iraq; iraqiarmy; m1a1; tank
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To: buwaya

PT76


21 posted on 12/25/2008 5:48:07 PM PST by patton (T)
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To: Fractal Trader; SandRat

The export version of the M1A1 will NOT have the reactive armor.


22 posted on 12/25/2008 6:20:49 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013 Obama's last day - If we survive)
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To: Fractal Trader

IRAN


23 posted on 12/25/2008 6:37:34 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: patton
thats what it looks like to me tooo...
24 posted on 12/25/2008 6:39:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: SandRat

The company that built the computerized training equipment for the M1 tank was a company in Los Angeles, CA. back in the early 80’s.

This equipment was built under DARPA contracts.


25 posted on 12/25/2008 7:24:16 PM PST by enots
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To: SandRat

brand new tanks?

or from inventory


26 posted on 12/25/2008 7:32:06 PM PST by element92
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To: element92

I don’t think they are making new ones. They are manufacturing the old ones.


27 posted on 12/25/2008 8:12:10 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: rahbert

Compared to what? None of their neighbors have armor in the category of M1s except Saudi and Kuwait which do not have large enough armys to be a real threat.

You can have the best tanks in the world but, with so few, not be able to cover the 1000km border with Iran. Not to mention the border with Iran’s formal ally Syria. 140 M1s is 4 tank bns or 12-20km of frontage. To properly fill the IA out, they need 1400-2100 tanks. They cannot afford the delivery time or money spent on all M1s.

For the price of those 140 M1s, they could buy 1400 M60s. Then, as they have money available, upgrade them to M60-120S. The M60-120S cost half as much as the M1 and is better than anything Iran or Syria have. Simular to the upgrades Turkey and Jordan are going with.


28 posted on 12/25/2008 8:33:41 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: patton

No PT76s operational in the IA inventory.

That is a BMP1.


29 posted on 12/25/2008 8:37:02 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: element92

New tanks. They are still making them in small numbers. If they were remanufactures they would be delivered sooner than fall 2010.


30 posted on 12/25/2008 8:38:24 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: Anti-Bubba182

They are still making them.

The line almost closed during the Clinton years but, the Egyptian buys kept it open.

The current remanufacture program for the US Army is 110 M1A1s being remanufactured to M1A2 per every 30 completely new M1A2s.

Then there is the foreign sales to Egypt, Saudi, Kuwait, etc...


31 posted on 12/25/2008 8:43:18 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: DJ Elliott

Thanks. I am glad they still make them, though in the age of “The One” I wonder if that lasts?


32 posted on 12/25/2008 9:11:14 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DJ Elliott
Who added the bore evacuator?


33 posted on 12/25/2008 9:19:19 PM PST by patton (T)
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To: patton

From the same photo collection that photo was taken.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/multimedia/126105.php

The associated article.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/12/iraqi_army_heavy_mec.php


34 posted on 12/25/2008 9:45:24 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: patton

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/pt-76.htm

And this is a PT-76...


35 posted on 12/25/2008 9:56:26 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: DJ Elliott

The photo linked in post 34 does not have a bore evacuator on the main gun - the one in the article does. Also, the one in the article has the turret hatch on a swivel - this was never done on a BMP-1.

One of these things is not like the other...


36 posted on 12/25/2008 10:03:20 PM PST by patton (Old BMP-1 Driver)
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To: DJ Elliott

Well, that brings back memories. I haven’t driven a PT76 since about 1985, I guess.

And you are correct - it is not a PT76. The turret is off center, and has only one hatch, while the 76 has a centered turret and two hatches.

If, however, it is a BMP-1, somebody modified the heck out of it.


37 posted on 12/25/2008 10:07:40 PM PST by patton (Old BMP-1 Driver)
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To: patton

It is not a PT-76. Wrong hull type. BMP hull.
And the Iraqis have been salvaging/rebuilding BMP1s and T72s. So they probably modified it in refit...


38 posted on 12/25/2008 10:10:12 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: patton

Crawled around on some shot up ones myself.

The Iraqis have been doing their own mods to their armor for decades. And we did not bomb Taji in 2003. They used to assemble T72s there. The entire inventory of T55s, BMP1s, and MTLBs that formed the 1st Mech Bde (pre-2005) were salvage/refit.

The 2nd Tank Bde was equipped with HA (formerly DDR) BMP1s and HU T72s. The 2nd is now the 35/9 Tank Bde.

The 1st has since added salvaged T72s and replaced the MTLBs with more HA BMP1s and is now designated 34/9 Mech Bde.

When the Slovak T72s arrive the 34/9 and 36/9 Bdes are expected to become armor Bdes. And the IA 9th Mechanized Division will then become the 9th Armored Division.

I am not sure whether the mod to the BMP1 was done by the Germans, Greeks, or Iraqis.


39 posted on 12/25/2008 10:25:31 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: element92

That I don’t know.


40 posted on 12/26/2008 4:45:47 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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