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To: vetvetdoug
Abraham Lincoln was willing to sacrifice >500,000 American lives to expand the strength of the Federal Government. Want to bet Obama will do even more?

Any old reason to dust off the Southron myth machine, huh?

22 posted on 12/24/2008 8:29:23 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Merry Christmas to you NS....

Ok, I use statement and reason A...you come back with B...I use C...you use D....agree to disagree...there...that will save us a good amount of cutting and pasting and references. Stay safe..

35 posted on 12/24/2008 8:50:02 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Non-Sequitur

Lincoln was a proponent of Clayism much the way pols of today adhere to Keynesianism. Lincoln was in favor of a massive central govt. supported by massive tariffs.Since they were so dependent on trade, by 1860 the Southern states were paying in excess of 80 percent of all tariffs, while they believed that most of the revenue from the tariffs was being spent in the North.
Lincoln`s plans were for even higher tariffs. The South had had enough and rightly seceded.

Slavery was irrelevant to the issue and in fact Lincoln was in favor of repatriation of all blacks back to Africa or a new home in central america.

Lincoln-Douglas Debates of 1858

Lincoln:

” I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.”

Lincoln was a tyrant who should have been shot sooner.


41 posted on 12/24/2008 9:06:13 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Any old reason to dust off the Southron myth machine, huh?”

I’m a Minnesotan, and I see nothing fundamentally incorrect about the statement. Whether he had a good reason or not, Lincoln was a union man, and the union meant a supreme federal government. That’s all there is to it.

By the way, the Lincoln Myth Machine is more powerful and at least as dishonest as the Southern Myth Machine.


42 posted on 12/24/2008 9:11:43 AM PST by Tublecane
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