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To: devere

I was am a natural born citizen and I was born not long after Obama and outside of the United States.

I have a Birth Certificate issued by the US Embassy to prove it.


45 posted on 12/23/2008 1:50:09 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

“I was am a natural born citizen and I was born not long after Obama and outside of the United States. I have a Birth Certificate issued by the US Embassy to prove it.”

And how is your citizenship status relevant to Barry Obama’s rather murky citizenship status? It’s two different sets of facts. Or are Barry’s twin brother?


50 posted on 12/23/2008 1:54:51 PM PST by devere
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To: trumandogz
"I was am a natural born citizen and I was born not long after Obama and outside of the United States.
I have a Birth Certificate issued by the US Embassy to prove it."

If both of your parents were citizens at the time, and subsequent residency requirements were met, then you are correct, but failure on any of those counts would mean that you are not. It only matters if you run for president.

101 posted on 12/23/2008 3:17:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: trumandogz
I was am a natural born citizen and I was born not long after Obama and outside of the United States. I have a Birth Certificate issued by the US Embassy to prove it.

You have a certificate proving you were a citizen at birth. But no where in the law, and only the first naturalization law passed by Congress, since repealed, is "natural born" mentioned. I'll bet your BC doesn't say that either.

But if both of your parents, or just your father was a US Citizen, then by the common law definition, the one the framers were using, you are a natural born citizen.

In the common law of most countries, natural born goes by the citizenship status of the parents/father. But in the English speaking countries, both by common and statute law, it is also conferred by place of birth. At least according to Blackstone, probably the most cited analyst of English common law during the founding period.

111 posted on 12/23/2008 3:59:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: trumandogz

Was your father a non-citizen and your mother not a resident for at least 14 years when that happened?


122 posted on 12/23/2008 4:33:16 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: trumandogz
I have a Birth Certificate issued by the US Embassy to prove it.

You sure it is not a State Department document to register the overseas birth that your parents received after your parents present proof of a foreign birth, like a birth certificate?

141 posted on 12/23/2008 6:46:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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