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To: NCLaw441

Well - like all analogies, it has it’s flaws.
A husband is not a “buddy” - agreed.

I’m only trying to illustrate that for women there is more of a mind-body connection that needs to engage which is less prevalent for the men.

” I wonder if making love with the husband is even ON many wives’ “list,” and if so, where on that it list it is placed in priority. If it isn’t on the list, the chance of getting it “done” is pretty low.”

True.
And I said in a previous post - I don’t disagree with the entire article.
I only disagree with the part where he seems to discount the women’s mood as a factor.

“Very few wives have to wonder if their husband would like to have sex on a particular day”

I’ve heard some women make that complaint.

” Failing to make time for him, knowing that it is important, is no different than telling him he just doesn’t matter.”

I’m not saying women are blameless.
This is a two way street.

What I’m arguing with is this notion that women should drop everything and “take one for the team”
Where is the romance in that?

Both people need to be attentive to each other.
Both people need to be concerned with their partner’s needs and what it takes to get them to respond.


106 posted on 12/23/2008 6:36:32 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

I think I agree with every point you have made. I might quibble about “taking one for the team” only in this regard: Sometimes you may be invited to a party that you don’t want to attend. If you stop by “just to make an appearance” (or, as Raymond on the TV show says, “bring a ‘gift’”) you might decide that the party is pretty fun after all.

The most important part, though, as you noted, is that it IS a two way street.


114 posted on 12/23/2008 6:44:14 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Scotswife
What I’m arguing with is this notion that women should drop everything and “take one for the team” Where is the romance in that?

Well you are right that this is suboptimal. But taking the situation from the woman's perspective when he is being making advances... There are three options.
1)Say no: The article was all about this option
2)Take one for the team: Sure it is not optional, but is it BETTER than option one?
3)Work on her own mood and get where she needs to be and / or get him to slow down while she works on getting in the mood.

Clearly number three is optimal. Better still if she was already in the mood or he could get her in one... (but even that requires her attitude to be in the right place). But BOTh options 2 and 3 involve the basic premise of the story which is to not turn him down. And both 2 and 3 are better for the relationship than flat turning him down.
127 posted on 12/23/2008 7:01:02 AM PST by TalonDJ
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