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THE WAR NEXT DOOR
CBS News ^ | Dec. 16, 2008 | Susana Seijas CBS News producer Mexico City

Posted on 12/19/2008 11:02:08 AM PST by AuntB

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CBS actually presented this, with all the disgusting facts, on their nightly news.

Even AP, this week states: Mexican drug smugglers pose top crime threat

Associated Press Dec. 15, 2008, 6:34PM http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6166344.html

1 posted on 12/19/2008 11:02:09 AM PST by AuntB
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To: bcsco; gubamyster; Czar; SwinneySwitch; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; backhoe; Liz; HiJinx; ...
"How do you begin to understand that so many people are dying in Mexico? More than 5,000 casualties because of "narcotrafficking." That’s more than all of the American troops that have died fighting an actual war in Iraq. It is hard to keep a tally, but Mexico´s El Universal newspaper does a good job of keeping score."
2 posted on 12/19/2008 11:05:22 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

Individuals in Mexico cannot own guns.

Drive into Mexico ... and get caught with one empty shell casing in your glove compartment ... You are in BIG trouble.


3 posted on 12/19/2008 11:07:37 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: OldNavyVet

And so you might ask, why do we continue this “war on drugs.”

Legalize marijuana and take the hundreds of millions that we are spending on eradication, enforcement, legal costs, etc. AND THEN add to this the hundreds of millions that could be collected on consumption taxes similar to alcohol and tobacco.

Not only would it take a huge drain off the federal budget, but would also remove the violence associated with the illegal activity. Legalize marijuana now!


4 posted on 12/19/2008 11:10:24 AM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: OldNavyVet; All

Another CBS report out of Mexico this week:[snip]

The drug traffickers are more reckless and ruthless than ever. A group of terrified school children were caught in the crossfire of a three-hour shootout on the streets of Tijuana. In Juarez, a crime reporter was shot to death, the fifth Mexican journalist silenced this year.

Bill Gore has witnessed the carnage, first as the FBI Special Agent in Charge in San Diego, now as the county’s undersheriff. He says American drug users should realize they have blood on their hands.

“This is not a victimless crime,” Gore said. “That people are dying, literally hundreds of them, on the streets of Tijuana, so they can have their recreational drugs on this side of the border.”

The most extreme violence is just south of the border - nowhere worse than Juarez, across the Rio Grande from El Paso. There have been 16 murders in El Paso this year and almost 1,500 drug-related killings in Juarez.

One grisly new tactic is beheadings. A headless corpse hung above a busy highway almost two hours before police covered it with a sheet - the head found in a nearby park.

In Tijuana, nine men were decapitated last month, three of them policemen, their badges stuck in their mouths - some of the 40 murders in Tijuana occurred in just one weekend.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/16/eveningnews/main4672172.shtml


5 posted on 12/19/2008 11:11:19 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: OldNavyVet

I thought civilian gun ownership was limited, not banned completely in Mexico...


6 posted on 12/19/2008 11:11:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: AuntB
Not to minimize the problems across our border to the south, but it is disingenuous to compare 5,000 murder victims in Mexico with US troop deaths in Iraq, without also including the thousands of civilians in Iraq that have been murdered by Suni-Shia violence.
7 posted on 12/19/2008 11:16:28 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: AuntB

What is perplexing is that the drug dealers whereabouts are known. In fact, they often live in the same neighborhoods (look for big houses, gated communities with tons of security).

This, unfortunately, is a failure of democracy and the legal system. Democracy requires some degree of cooperation from its citizens.

The next step is to bomb the gangs and wipe them out. However, this is so dangerous in terms of the rule of law, but sometimes it gets to that point.


8 posted on 12/19/2008 11:20:23 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You are right ... it’s a privilege reserved ror those of status in Mexico.


9 posted on 12/19/2008 11:20:28 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: AuntB

Nothing in Mexico will change until the people standup and do something. That’s the problem with the illegals in this country. They will sit back and let the government handle things for them. I have always had a problem with people that will willingly leave their country instead of trying to change things.


10 posted on 12/19/2008 11:24:48 AM PST by RC2
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To: OldNavyVet

A Mexican guy in the asphalt biz from Puebla told me that he owned a .38 revolver but could not own a .357...


11 posted on 12/19/2008 11:30:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: RC2
In total agreement, RC2. If their country isn't worth standing and fighting for, don't be dragging the screwed up place up here to us!
12 posted on 12/19/2008 11:31:01 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

Stupid people fail to realize that illegal aliens kill over 4000 people per year right here in the USA.

The buttheads in the media got all upset by the body count in Iraq but never said a word about the carnage at home caused by people who shouldn’t be here.


13 posted on 12/19/2008 11:37:58 AM PST by Eagles2003
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Stupid people fail to realize that illegal aliens kill over 4000 people per year right here in the USA.

The buttheads in the media got all upset by the body count in Iraq but never said a word about the carnage at home caused by people who shouldn’t be here.”

Yes, you are exactly right. I’m still stunned they went this far. They did (on the video link) talk about the kidnappings of USA citizens by Mexicans.


14 posted on 12/19/2008 11:39:38 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Free America52

Not to mention they could tax the he11 out of it and there you have it....less spending on the war, and more coming in from taxing the sale of the substance.

Also there would bring a new farming substance to the US and hemp could come back!


15 posted on 12/19/2008 11:46:22 AM PST by VanillaBlizzard (Welcome to the USSA (United Socialist States of America))
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To: VanillaBlizzard; Free America52

I agree with both of you, but here’s the thing.

We can’t get the government/our reps to enforce immigration law or build a fence mandated by law they passed.

How will we ever get them to change the law on legalizing weed? I think there’s too much money for those concerned keeping it illegal.


16 posted on 12/19/2008 11:51:02 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Free America52

That sounds reasonable, and I personally have no objection to legalizing pot- but that would not solve this problem. The pot smugglers would simply smuggle other drugs. You would have to legalize all drugs and then I imagine they would find something else to smuggle.


17 posted on 12/19/2008 11:54:55 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: AuntB
He says American drug users warriors should realize they have blood on their hands.

fixed.

18 posted on 12/19/2008 12:07:22 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Free America52

“Legalize marijuana now!”

I am soooooo stoned. Yeah, that’ll solve the problem.


19 posted on 12/19/2008 12:11:24 PM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new enviromentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: AuntB

Dope, growing, manufacturing, transporting, selling, using are all rough ways to go; lotsa people die!


20 posted on 12/19/2008 12:16:28 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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