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To: ari-freedom
It is sometimes claimed that changes in radiation from space, so-called galactic cosmic rays,

Not COSIMIC rays you freaking morons. SOLAR ONES!! Solar emitions go in cycles Cosmic ones are the background radiation of the universe. No one claims THOSE cause global warming.
2 posted on 12/19/2008 9:40:42 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Silly us thinking that the giant flaming orb in the sky might affect our temperatures!


3 posted on 12/19/2008 9:42:49 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: TalonDJ
"Not COSIMIC rays you freaking morons. SOLAR ONES!!"

I love it when we speak truth to power!

5 posted on 12/19/2008 9:45:24 AM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: TalonDJ

Actually they do.

The theory is that solar wind drives back the cosmic rays and prevents some of them from reaching earth.

Since cosmic rays cause clouds, more solar wind means fewer cosmic rays means fewer clouds means more absorption of radiant heat from the sun means higher temperatures.

:)


6 posted on 12/19/2008 9:46:04 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: TalonDJ
Actually, yes, cosmic rays. See Svensmark The Chilling Stars
10 posted on 12/19/2008 9:54:37 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: TalonDJ
Here's a shorter, easier to read version Svensmark Cosmoclimatology
14 posted on 12/19/2008 9:58:36 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: TalonDJ

Though occasionally there are high energy bursts such as stars in supernova even in other galaxies, and even more energetic sources such as pulsars and quasars near the event horizon at ~14 billion years distant.

Yet, being periodic in nature, it does seem difficult to specifically tie these to any long term atmospheric events over about 4 billion years here.

...Such a strange and beautiful universe of God....


18 posted on 12/19/2008 10:09:16 AM PST by onedoug
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To: TalonDJ

You are right. It is not cosmic rays by themselves; as the headline states.

The hypothesis is that the interaction of cosmic rays and solar wind affect cloud formation and earthly temperatures. As you stated, the variability (warming or cooling) is due to our sun.

The article talks of global warming during the last decades. But I don’t think there has been any global warming in the last ten years.

If we can’t get the Y (dependent variable) value right, why debate about the X (independent) variable?


28 posted on 12/19/2008 11:10:02 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: TalonDJ

Actually, the term “cosmic rays” includes gamma emissions from the sun. But also see post #6.


30 posted on 12/19/2008 12:31:49 PM PST by expatpat
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To: TalonDJ

Coming soon! A study on the effects of moonlight and global warming. (Hint:save the research money. Moonlight has no impact on Gorebull warming.)


32 posted on 12/19/2008 1:25:42 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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