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To: Mase

I think we are going to disagree on this as much as doctors do. Some of my diabetic friends have been told to stay away from all soda, to include diet. Others have a mini fridge at work full of diet soda.

My point is that it isn’t a settled matter that artificial sweeteners are good for you. I don’t think its unreasonable to question the health effects of man-made chemical compounds.

Diabetes - the culprit is corn sweetener. Even Rush is talking about diet vs ‘sugar’ soda. Its not sugar anymore, its corn; and, its terrible for you. Its not just in the soda - its in bread, jelly, salad dressing, mayo, peanut butter, kids cereal, etc.

Why? Corn subsidy and sugar tariffs. Both parties are to blame - but gov tinkering has destroyed the american diet.

This tax tinkering in NY will eventually end up in a class action lawsuit against the state, when people claim sweeteners made them sick (whether true or not). I just hate the idea of the government telling me what is healthy (and I reserve my right to be very skeptical of artificial sweeteners).


100 posted on 12/17/2008 8:16:25 PM PST by lacrew (Yup, they're girded!)
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To: lacrew
Diabetes - the culprit is corn sweetener.

What's in corn sweetener? Why is it worse than sugar?

102 posted on 12/17/2008 8:19:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (This is morning, that's when I spend the most time, thinking 'bout what I've given up...)
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To: lacrew
I think we are going to disagree on this as much as doctors do.

I went to school with a lot of people who are MD's now. They never did get enough training in chemistry and nutrition.

My point is that it isn’t a settled matter that artificial sweeteners are good for you.

"Good" is a relative term. Too much of anything can be bad for you. People die from drinking too much water. Artificial sweeteners are demonized by people with an agenda or those who don't really understand enough about chemistry, physiology and nutrition.

Diabetes - the culprit is corn sweetener.

You must be joking. Are you referring to corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup? HFCS is made up of the same two chemicals, in almost identical proportions, as regular old table sugar. Corn syrup is mostly glucose. How are either of these responsible for diabetes?

Its not sugar anymore, its corn; and, its terrible for you.

Corn is bad? Uh, ok. Why?

Its not just in the soda - its in bread, jelly, salad dressing, mayo, peanut butter, kids cereal, etc.

It's gotta be sweetened by something. If not sugar, then why not HFCS? Both are made up of glucose and fructose. Over the past 30 or so years, HFCS has replaced sugar on a nearly one-for-one basis. I still don't see how one can be bad for you while the other one isn't.

Why? Corn subsidy and sugar tariffs. Both parties are to blame - but gov tinkering has destroyed the american diet.

If we weren't protecting sugar we'd be eating sugar instead of HFCS and we'd still be getting glucose and fructose. Again, how can one be bad for you and the other not?

I just hate the idea of the government telling me what is healthy (and I reserve my right to be very skeptical of artificial sweeteners).

Government knows less than most but at least the FDA doesn't give in to the know nothing charlatans spreading their junk science. Feel free to be skeptical of artificial sweeteners but at least learn enough to understand why you harbor that skepticism.

104 posted on 12/17/2008 8:36:57 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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