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CA: Dems Go Around GOP. Et Tu, Arnold? (dems attempt to stick "revenue neutral" plan to taxpayers)
KQED - Capitol Notes ^ | 12/17/08 | John Myers

Posted on 12/17/2008 4:27:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge

And just when you thought the budget saga couldn't get any more bizarre. If this were the Olympics and even if you hated it, you'd have to score some style points on the acrobatic budget maneuver unveiled this afternoon.

Democrats, frustrated with GOP refusals to vote for any tax increase to erase any part of the state's fiscal problems, have now decided to push forward a budget plan that includes $9.3 billion worth of new revenues... revenues they say don't require a single Republican vote.

Fasten your seatbelt. Here goes:

Democrats say the plan (which legislative attorneys have reportedly vetted) is "revenue neutral," meaning that the bill to be considered is a zero sum game to the state. And that, they say, means any new revenue... even a new tax... can be enacted with a simple majority vote.

But it's not revenue neutral to most Californians; on the contrary, the plan would add 13 cents to the price of a gallon of gas, a 2.5% surcharge onto everyone's income tax bill, a three-quarter-of-a-cent sales tax hike, and a new 3% withholding tax to independent contractors (who technically own their own business).

So how does a revenue neutral bill solve the problem? Pop a Dramamine pill before reading on...

Because, say Democratic budget staffers, it creates new revenues in the state's general fund, and takes away a relatively equal amount of revenues that now go to the state's special fund. And because the current shortfall is revenue that's evaporated from the general fund... well, there ya go: new revenue... and... revenue neutral. Presto!

The package also includes an oil severance tax that conforms with a plan proposed last month by Governor Schwarzenegger. And overall, it's estimated that it would bring in $1.5 billion in the current fiscal year, and $7.8 billion in the budget year to come.

The revenues are paired with $7.3 billion in cuts, which Democrats say are the same proposals they offered late last month.

All of this begs two questions: if it's such a great idea, why didn't Dems do it sooner? And what will Schwarzenegger do if this lands on his desk?

I asked the first question in today's news conference with Democratic leaders. Senate President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg's reply can be heard below.

(By the way, the "pledge" he refers to is the pledge almost every GOP legislator signed to not raise taxes.)

The answer to the second question -- what will the governor do -- may be the only other real news.

After all, this does seem to be at least a first step away from financial collapse. On the other hand, it would probably cement the frosty relationship with Republicans. And you can probably put a stopwatch to attorneys for a few interest groups who will no doubt run to court and try to block its implementation.

No matter what you think of this, it has re-energized the story for reporters... who've labored to write the same story with the same dynamics day after day.

Stay tuned, this one's a long ways from over.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; california; dems; ettu; revenueneutral; schwarzenegger

1 posted on 12/17/2008 4:27:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
There will be a lawsuit. Its unconstitutional to increase taxes by reclassifying them as "fees." This is an end-run around the two thirds majority requirement. Revenue-neutral, my ass.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 12/17/2008 4:31:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The idea that they are going to get $7 billion from an oil severance tax is fantasy. Right now, the oil market is already flush with excess supply and falling demand. If they slap on an oil severance tax on oil produced in California, the oil companies will simply buy their oil from other producers outside of the state. All this will do is harm the California oil producers.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 4:38:43 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: goldstategop; NormsRevenge
No, it's even more blatant than calling new taxes "fees". They are raising sales tax and the income tax for ALL taxPAYERs.

Democrats detail their latest budget plan

4 posted on 12/17/2008 4:42:15 PM PST by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: SmithL

same old crap...

A Recall wasn’t good enough before..


5 posted on 12/17/2008 4:44:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: SmithL
The courts will strike them down. Then the Democrats will have to go back to square one. Sidestepping the GOP won't bring a real budget solution closer.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 12/17/2008 4:52:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
A Recall wasn’t good enough before..

Wrong target last time.

It should be the leadership of the legislature, and the half-dozen totally ignorant legislators who introduce new spending bills.

The governor can only suggest new taxes. The legislature must actually do it.

7 posted on 12/17/2008 5:29:25 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: NormsRevenge
ny and ca are in a race to the bottom...
8 posted on 12/17/2008 5:39:29 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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I add a small amount to our family income working at home as an independent contractor. Roughly 45% of my income already disappears in taxes due to having to pay all the FICA, etc.

And CA wants to stick me with a 3% tax hike just because I’m an independent contractor?

I don’t have words to express my anger. Maybe I should just quit.


9 posted on 12/17/2008 6:29:37 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: Publius6961

The Gub also proposes the initial budget and ultimately signs off on it..

I’d recall the state officers from top to bottom, and the current legislative assembly and senate leaders, almost all of whom are dyed in the wool liberals anyway, including the Gub.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 7:00:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: GOPrincess
Atlas Shrugged... or Puked, as the case may be.
11 posted on 12/17/2008 7:04:01 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: goldstategop

These people are absolute cowards. They don’t want to make the hard choices that need to be made.

Worse, their contortions - if they hold up (which I doubt) - will probably have the opposite effect desired. California is already taxed to the brink and pushing more will send revenue to the other side of the laffer curve. Businesses will shift revenue out of state, people will hide income, and consumers will simply start buying things online from out of state stores.


12 posted on 12/17/2008 7:05:51 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: NormsRevenge

We need to organize a recall of everyone who votes for this bill. It is such blatant trickery and doubletalk that there are plenty of democrats who will either oppose the bill or agree that this kind of chicanery is no way to manage a state. Anyone who supports it is insulting their constituents.


13 posted on 12/17/2008 7:08:35 PM PST by monkeyshine
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