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...environmental left sometimes decries it as a bureaucratic mess that won't accomplish anything.

Now that's news...

1 posted on 12/17/2008 3:02:40 AM PST by Libloather
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The political right sometimes decries the system as a hidden, unnecessary tax

Let's see. New Jersey buys carbon credits from New Hampshire. This raises the cost of energy production in New Jersey. New Jersey utilities raise prices to compensate. New Jersey energies transfer their wealth to the state of New Hampshire for nothing. No, it's not just a hidden tax, but taxation without representation, because the people taxed in New Jersey cannot vote in New Hampshire.

2 posted on 12/17/2008 3:22:06 AM PST by PasorBob
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When all has been said and done it would have been cheaper to let AlGore Inventor of the Internet be POTUS. Just look at the mischief he has been up to with all that spare time on his hands. Global Warming? It is a bigger scam than Y2K ever was, and it is going to cost needless TRILLIONS of dollars worldwide.

Even more galling is the fact that he has managed to make himself rich and famous on this SCAM.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 3:30:03 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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And they whine about Madoff who made off with $50 billion in a giant scam... Exactly where do they think this 'cap and trade' scheme is going to end up???
4 posted on 12/17/2008 3:47:34 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Libloather; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 12/17/2008 4:00:34 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Libloather

Wonder when their power was restored to get off the press release after the last ice storm. This “junk science” has gotten well out of hand and it’s adherents seem to be gripped in a disturbing psychological disorder. I’m convinced that a large number of libs have embraced “global warming” as the new “green religion.” Along with their “religious” zeal comes the opportunity to siphon off billions of hard earned dollars from our already struggling economy.


6 posted on 12/17/2008 4:20:55 AM PST by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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‘New Hampshire, the Live Green and Die State.’

(Exclaimer: death results from starvation for lack of jobs and economy that has been destroyed, suicide, by criminal acts, by rebelling against State and Federal mandated tyrannical public rulers, and other events coordinated by people who have the common sense of a dog chasing a car on a busy street)
8 posted on 12/17/2008 4:46:09 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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... curtail the gas that most contributes to global warming.

Two lies in the same phrase. If the "fix global warming" bs is included it would make three.

9 posted on 12/17/2008 4:51:28 AM PST by CPOSharky (Coming up: Four years of Jimmuh Cartah on crack.)
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I hope that some day cap and trade schemes will be shown to be a violation of equal protection for the simple reason that it entrenches and enriches existing producers of CO2 by granting them grandfather credits to start while requiring any new competitor to buy all their credits.

This is a monstrous tyranny, for the real goal is to tax and control the production of energy itself, and thereby throttle our prosperity here in the US.

By only levying taxes on local producers, it allows items from non-taxed, non-local producers to be imported. Over time, of course those items should have a lower cost of production. The unintended consequence of this absurdity is to encourage production to be done elsewhere. And we wonder why we have a loss of jobs.

Of course some tyranny begets avoidance, which begets more tyranny. How long will it be before a Equivalence tax is levied on non-local goods?

10 posted on 12/17/2008 5:34:25 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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"It's likely that the sale price will be less than the $3.07 of September's sale. Figures probably won't be available until late in the week or early next week.

Partly as a result, activists are urging environmental groups to buy allotments to increase the cost of pollution. "

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The next bubble. Hopefully, with so many of their donors affected by various adverse economic conditions and fraud, this will put a financial strain on the Greens. I expect huge campaigns to get as many people as possible to *invest* in these allotments. Perhaps they will be the next group to demand a bailout.
11 posted on 12/17/2008 6:41:16 AM PST by reformedliberal
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