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To: 4Speed; nathanbedford
Govt. needs to shrink

Yes, it does.

But our failure to shrink government when we had the mandate to do so has serious ramifications, which I really haven't seen discussed here.

It's not clear to me now that the government CAN be shrunk, or even that its growth can be arrested, by electoral politics.

If a 49-state Reagan landslide in 1984, and a complete Republican avalanche in 1994 with a clear, written mandate can't shrink the Federal budget by one thin dime, then we may be looking at the problem through the wrong lens.

We're using old glasses. Maybe we need ghost ring sights instead.

21 posted on 12/16/2008 5:49:10 PM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Jim Noble
The real problem is that over the last 90 years non freeholders, women, children under 21, and morons have been enfranchised.

These are the groups that didn't vote before, the groups the founders warned us not to enfranchise, the groups that are responsible for socialist control of the federal and a majority of state governments.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS UNTIL THE REPUBLIC FALLS AND THEY ARE STRIPPED OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE

The Republic will not endure, people just don't realize it yet.

What is happening in NY will happen at the federal level as well.

When it falls, those who pick up the pieces (military) will not make the same mistake.

41 posted on 12/16/2008 6:20:56 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Jim Noble

Having worked in state and Federal Government Contracts . . .the majority of the last 15 years. . . and seen the SEIU KEEP unemployable people, employed as state “workers” . . . with retirement benies beyond most American’s reach. . . .you got lots of room for savings.
Illinois had an early retirement buyout during Blago’s first year . . .14,000 state workers took early retirement . . . and nobody noticed . . .the state kept humming along . . .no problems.
The Fed Software Contract I was on was WAY overstaffed . . . and WAY to many Green card workers.
Cutting Govt. waste is like low hanging Fruit.


45 posted on 12/16/2008 7:16:35 PM PST by 4Speed
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