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To: Smokin' Joe
But if you can't get through the comments, how'd you read the bill?

The bill is organized, cogent, and logical.

OTOH, your post was random and ignorant.

To wit: you think that things will cost more under the nrst [in your example it was medical expenses iirc.] That's just plain wrong. But ignorance can be cured.

You are - via myopia - either mistaking that the nrst is a replacement [as opposed to an addition] or you are purposely omitting that from your posts.

It can be easily shown that things cost less under the nrst. Those who think otherwise are comparing today's pretax prices with tomorrow's post nrst prices.

122 posted on 12/22/2008 9:43:05 AM PST by Principled (They used the CRA to undermine capitalism. They're using ACORN to undermine democracy.)
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To: Principled
The bill is organized, cogent, and logical.

Well, at least something about this scam is.

To wit: you think that things will cost more under the nrst [in your example it was medical expenses iirc.] That's just plain wrong.

You are right, it was too long. Someone who has to pay for expensive and life saving medical procedures and/or medication is going to pay more tax than someone who doesn't. DUH.

Follow that so far?

They will have to do so out of reduced income, as well. (If you are that sick, it is tough to put in a full workday). So a greater proportion of the income of someone so burdened will have to go to taxes than for someone who is healthy and does not require those extraordinary medical expenditures in order to stay alive.

Considering that medical costs rose at two to three times the rate of inflation for the last decade or more, I really do not put much faith in your assertion they will go down because the way taxes are collected changes. Maybe tort reform would help.

So what is the average "poverty level" amount for health care, anyway? How much does someone on the dole spend on that? (wait, I'll answer that: NOTHING! WE PAY FOR IT!)

Housing? Squat! It is TAXPAYER subsidized.

Food? STAMPS!

Heat? SUBSIDIZED!

In short, we pick up the tab, they don't spend squat and your check isn't going to be as big as you think!

But you are going to create another department of the Government to issue payments, track household sizes, address changes, births, deaths, to issue the payments, (in short, the census on steroids) and another to track down fraud.

Maybe we should call it the Department of Pie!

GOvernment isn't going to get any smaller, and that just means it will cost more, no matter how the money is collected. They might save a bunch, though when they only have to change one or two numbers to raise the tax.

123 posted on 12/22/2008 11:02:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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