"They took arrr jerbs!"
Posted on 12/16/2008 9:41:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Yup. I think the Repubs want the UAW to bring their costs in line with the transplants. GM, Ford and Chrysler can never survive unless they do that. the global economy has too many cars and too many car companies. China will only make it worse. Any economic slowdown just kills all the car companies except the most profitable ones.
People think we wll go back to where we were a few years ago and that a short-term cash injection will fix these companies. Obama is a disaster and more regulation and socialism will only make things worse.
Reagan was close to Japan, while the Bushes were close to China. There’s your difference. The Japanese are not the problem.
Republicans “told” US manufacturers to to build factories in China did we?
Riiiiight!
Is that why Europeans firms, Japanese firms, and firms from practically every advanced country on the planet, have built huge factories in China and have been making goods there for decades?
Has Pat Buchanan ever heard of the low wages in China , backed by very hard working Chinese workers who are very good at making consumer electronics products like cell phones, TV sets, laptops etc?
There are 1000s of American manufacturing companies that make weapons, etc., I work for one of them. Having the big three go away today wouldn't change nor effect that one bit. Heck the union at my shop is UAW too.
Pat makes a lot of sense...
Of course, there are too many liberal Free Traders here with that “F—k America” attitude...have no problem with subsidizing foreign companies at the expense of American companies
At least Reagan was smart....not afraid to use tarriffs to save American companies...no wonder why the liberal Free Traders in the GOP did not like him
Bet that those criticizing Buchanan for this writing are the same ones who claim McCain and Bush are conservatives. Yeah Right
I am no fan of the UAW...but the US auto industry needs to be saved. I would rather have Americans I disagree with making my war materiel than relying on foreigners to do it...if we ever get into another major military conflict
Our manufacturing base was debased by the globalists in the pocket of the international bankers both in the Republican and Democratic parties.
Yep we were sold down the river by them. But lets keep voting for the moderate globalists in our party and ruin the country.
Pat is absolutely on target, partcilarly in the final two paragraphs, which bear repeating:
>>>>>>>>>>>In today’s world, America faces nationalistic trade rivals who manipulate currencies, employ nontariff barriers, subsidize their manufacturers, rebate value-added taxes on exports to us and impose value-added taxes on imports from us, all to capture our markets and kill our great companies. And we have a Republican Party blissfully ignorant that we live in a world of us or them. It doesn’t even know who “us” is.
>>>>>>>>>We need a new team on the field and a new coach who believes with Vince Lombardi that “winning isn’t everything. It’s the only thing.”
And Pat can still turn a phrase. “Toyota Republicans”—what a great line.
“The 1950’s weren’t so bad, my friend.”
You bet. I’m sure glad to have lived then. What fun and personal growth.
I’m no Buchanan fan, but how is he wrong in this piece?
“What are Republicans thinking of, pulling the plug, at Christmas, on GM, risking swift death for the greatest manufacturing company in American history, a strategic asset and pillar of the U.S. economy.”
They’re thinking, “Hey, why don’t I try sticking to my principles for once?”
We want GM to have a sound business model to follow. If that means the Unions has to ‘concede’, so be it!
Don’t allow the Unions to talk about the ‘fall of the American worker’ when the parking lot at Walmart is full of cars with bumper stickers.
Consumers have ‘voted’ with their wallets as to the ‘landscape’ of the economy. They HAD the chance to support American companies once and now they’re gone unless you want the Fed Govt to dictate to you.
"They took arrr jerbs!"
It is not the Republican Parties responsibility to prop up a failed business. It is not the demoratic parties responsibility to prop up failed businesses.
OK, my understanding is that GM is nearly 60 billion in debt. They owe the Union 29 billion. If they were to sell the company, they would only get around 3 to 4 billion. Now, we are supposed to borrow our children’s money to give to a failed business that didn't give a red rats keyster what the consumers wanted over the years? We wanted carburetors and fuel injection that could get us 100 miles to the gallon. We had this technology in the 70s, but the car manufacturers allowed OPEC to by those pattens. Did they have my interest in mind?
Look Pat, we could take the 25 billion down to a Southern State and build new plants. The good people of the South will be happy to go to work for a lot less money then the Union workers in the North.
Another thing, Wall Street investors wanted a quick return on their money. A lot of businesses, not just the car companies started thinking in the short term. From quarter to quarter. Nobody wanted to look at the long term, because investors were not looking long term. Well, if these companies would have adhered to a 5, 10, 20, and 50 year plan, they wouldn't be in this position. Where are all your investors now? Oh, I know! They are the taxpayers. Again, I must ask, why are we going to invest our children's money into a failed, short sited business?
I think PB makes some good points on the Nationalistic Trade Policies that US Mfr. do face as well as the offshoring of jobs due to both political crime syndicates!
Pat just doesnt seem to bipartison in his castigations.
Pat's also laboring under the neo-communist delusion that car companies are all the same ... and that their products are interchangeable.
Unfortunately, Mr. Buchanan fails to notice that the free market is at work here, and the market clearly does not treat all car companies as being equal.
The Big 3 are being kicked to the curb by consumers who choose to buy from other manufacturers. There are a lot of reasons for this, of which two are by far the most important:
1. There is a very strong (and fairly earned) perception that American cars are unreliable, especially as compared to Japanese cars.
2. American cars are seen as being overpriced, both in terms of the initial purchase price, and also in the cost of repairs (which, from 1, above, are expected to occur more frequently).
Mr. Buchanan ignores these factors ... and thus, as usual, misses the point.
“Fine. But why this “Let-them-eat-cake!” coldness toward U.S. auto companies?”
The auto companies gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the democrats. They gave their companies over to the unions, and destroyed themselves. GM sold the same amount of cars as Toyota, yet lost $10s of billions while Toyota made billions.
If we bail them out, they will produce more cars and lose more money.
They must rework their labor and debt contracts without government help.
I’ve long thought that businesses end up with exactly the type of union it deserves. As you said, a pox on both of them.
“Reagan understood the difference between free trade as an ideology and Kool-Aid drinking free trade as carried to the extreme we have today— a class of privileged plutocrats like the politicians, the U.A.W. and their servant-enablers who suckle from the government teat, and the rest of us who are expected to pay the freight”
I don’t understand this sentence at all.
Would you borrow money to invest in a business that is nearly 60 billion in debt and has a value of 3 to 4 billion?
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