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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of interesting comments in this thread.

During the worst of the Clinton anti-military effort, an opposing sentiment within the military led to an underground publication within the military called “The Special Forces Resister.” It was so “unauthorized” that it there was a real effort to suppress it and find and punish any military personnel involved in publication, and even subscribing to it!

The theme of the publication was concern for the potential misuse of the military against the american public. At the time the general assumption was that, largely because of the draft, most military members would not balk at being used to forcibly disarm american civilians. At the time there was still a big carryover from the Vietnam war era.

Today’s military is made up of a much better slice of America’s young people. Typically smarter and better educated both militarily and academically. From what information has bypassed the MSM and made it to the public eye, it seems they also have a real understanding of what they are there for. From top to bottom the forces appear to believe in the mission and recognize that they are doing a good thing.

It is hard to quantify, but something that came to light before the recent election may offer a clue. A young woman soldier assigned the duty of accompanying a MSM reporter conducting a “poll” of soldiers on whether they supported Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin questioned 60 soldiers, one at a time. At the 60 point the reporter had found a couple who were undecided, 4 who supported Obama/Biden and a bit over 50 who supported McCain/Palin.

Of course when the report was telecast on tv, 5 of the interviews were used, 1 undecided, 1 McCain Palin and three of the four Obama/Biden supporters. No mention of the total number interviewed or the percentages. If the soldier had not emailed her parents before the news report, no one would have realized the fraud. Of course, it didn’t get much press, but does reflect the general level of reporting.

Isn’t it odd that when we started definitely winning in Iraq, that war became unmentionable on the evening news?

I think it is very significant that “The O” wants to form a national civilian force “as large and well-equipped as the US military” Does anyone believe that force wouldn’t be armed and for the express purpose of disarming the public. Sounds like The One realizes that he has a problem with the public meekly submitting to his plan eliminate the constitution as an effective control on government overreach.

The oath of office of the president, most other high officials, and all military officers are very similar in that they contain the phrase, “....support and defend the constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foriegn and domestic...” The oath that I took as a new 2nd Lt. also had the phrase “..and that I will obey the LAWFUL orders of those appointed over me..” (emphasis added) As I understand that phrase, an order to directly violate the fundamental constitutional meaning of the 2nd amendment would not pass the “lawful order” test any more than would be one to execute civilian witnesses my superior officer wanted eliminated.

In the time “The Special Forces Resister” was published there was a high level of concern that the focus on “urban warfare” training was preparation for just such a pogrom against law-abiding US gun owners. If that concern arises again, as is likely under an Obama administration, it is inescapable logic that the Iraq war effort is just such a training program raised to an exponential level. It is by no means certain, however, that Obama can count on misusing the military against US civilians.

Americans had better find a way to anticipate and recognize what is almost surely coming. It is not going to be pretty.


79 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:09 AM PST by LoneStarC
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To: LoneStarC

Enlisted members swear the same oath.


80 posted on 12/16/2008 10:22:19 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: LoneStarC

“The Special Forces Resister.”


I remember the Resister, I would love to hear some discussion about that period from our Special Forces guys, especially that served in Haiti during the time of the Resister.


87 posted on 12/16/2008 10:42:47 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: LoneStarC
Does anyone believe that force wouldn’t be armed and for the express purpose of disarming the public. Sounds like The One realizes that he has a problem with the public meekly submitting to his plan eliminate the constitution as an effective control on government overreach.

First the Pretender is going to have to prove he knows how to wipe his own ass. Ever see one of these affirmative action types try to function outside of their bullcrap contexts? I'll give it to you that he'll further bollocks up the civil service and probably lose a war or two. Other than that, I'll have to see for mysef.

93 posted on 12/16/2008 11:02:09 AM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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