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To: nufsed
Of course HE (FDR) paid the people who hadn't paid in. Government does that all the time. It's called welfare.

Is that not an admission that "Social Security" is a fraud?

If we are going to give people money to ensure that they live at some sort of subsistence level, let's call it what it is: WELFARE or Government Assistance (to dress it up a bit). I can appreciate that this was required at the time and is today.

However, if we are going to pay (invest?) into a fund, based on our earnings, and then receive a fixed amount in return, and my money is being taken to pay non investors, then that is a scam and not a securing of my social future.

I would favor a solution along the lines of:

1)Grandfather in all current investors under the program, the way it is (to do otherwise is political suicide.

2) New Investors can sign up to a tiered system. A portion goes to keep the above program alive, and a second portion goes into an individual fund where your return on investment is based on your earnings and the return gained on those earnings (no cap).

3) After a period of time (25-30 years?) The amount used by new investors to pay off the old investors would be decreased.

4) Eventually (50 years or more?) -- All investors would be funded based on their earnings and their investments.

NOTE: rules and guidelines for investment would be required and would be monitored by local banks or investment firms (I know, this is where many would dispute the appropriateness of this plan).

55 posted on 12/16/2008 10:52:23 AM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Michael.SF.

While a thousand times better than the present scam, you still have government mandating retirement savings, so you wouldn’t have completely erased the stain shit out by FDR [spit]. The government’s involvement will distort the results, probably diminish returns, and interfere with peoples fundamental freedom of choice. Maybe the next phase after that could be to phase out even that.


56 posted on 12/16/2008 11:23:39 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Michael.SF.
Yeah it was called social security, what were they thinking?

I was only here to raise the question about Roosevelt being involved in a Ponzi scheme. No one has made that case but many have made noise.

62 posted on 12/16/2008 2:42:46 PM PST by nufsed
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