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To: BykrBayb; wagglebee

> You cannot be both pro-life and pro-euthanasia.

Interesting. I’ve never given any serious thought about pro-or-anti-euthanasia, and certainly never thought of it in the same context as pro-life.

Why can’t you be pro-life and pro-euthanasia at the same time? What is the ethical and moral linkage?

Note that I’m not disagreeing with what you’ve said: I’m seeking to understand the issue.

(I prefer to describe myself as anti-abortion)


27 posted on 12/15/2008 9:41:54 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Why can’t you be pro-life and pro-euthanasia at the same time? What is the ethical and moral linkage?

I'm going to assume you mean pro-assisted suicide, not pro-euthanasia, because I doubt you'd be asking why killing Grandma against her will is necessarily a bad thing.

You ask a good question.

First, it's up to God when we check in and out.

Second, the people who are cited when assisted suicide is sold to voters (terminally ill, in great and unrelievable discomfort, totally rational about the decision) are as rare as a dragon's tooth in the real world. Many of those who choose assisted suicide are clinically depressed (there goes rationality), non-terminal or many months or years from death and could have their pain relieved by good palliative care specialists. And it's not just that these people are a bit off the mark; as soon as the procedure becomes legal, folks start requesting suicide for stuff like (in one Dutch case I recall) being sad over the death of an adult child. Even doctors abuse it; the Dutch set tight standards on who could be assisted in suicide and doctors just ignored them.

Third, it is inevitable that in nations with nationalized health care, a right to die will evolve into a duty to die. Then we really will see euthanasia.

30 posted on 12/15/2008 10:38:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; wagglebee
Why can’t you be pro-life and pro-euthanasia at the same time?

Please don't confuse a stale old joke with a statement of fact. Being pro-euthanasia doesn't really mean you like Chinese kids. It means you favor the destruction of life.

With this new information, can you make an attempt to answer the question for yourself?

31 posted on 12/16/2008 4:32:43 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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