Posted on 12/15/2008 4:28:56 PM PST by wagglebee
Comparing soldiers whose duty it is to kill the enemy, knowing that their own lives may be sacrificed, has nothing - I repeat, NOTHING - whatsoever to do with promoting or legalizing doctor assisted suicide.
Nothing.
The fact that you say the two are equal shows you know absolutely nothing about military service or the medical profession, what to speak of the essence of right and wrong.
It would be no morally different than military pilots shooting down their wingmen so that their planes will crash into enemy ships or troop formations.Well exactly. Both are murder. A military superior, in battle, may use force (including deadly force) against a member of his own military only under very proscribed circumstances. Ther one you cite would lead to murder charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Comparing soldiers whose duty it is to kill the enemy, knowing that their own lives may be sacrificed, has nothing - I repeat, NOTHING - whatsoever to do with promoting or legalizing doctor assisted suicide.I have not advocated doctor-assisted sucide.
How is sacrificing oneself for one's family detestful? Soldiers have been doing that for people that they are not related to, you know.To the morally blind your argument looks good. In fact it fails.
The soldier who gives his LIFE that others may LIVE acts out of the highest level of love and the highest level of morality, a life for a life.
You equate money to life in the argument that I ought to be willing to kill myself so that my death costs less money. A void and sorrowfilled failure as an argument.
Thanks. On occasion the words flow well. Deo Gratias.
So what the hell are you advocating? That people commit suicide in clinics? On their own? What?
Yes indeed. When He uses us frail vessels, miracles can happen. One heart changed is a miracle.
life
That people commit suicide in clinics? On their own? What?If they want to kill themselves, they should do it themselves.
Then why are you on this thread? It is about doctor assisted suicide.
Perhaps I should give a little background, this may help you understand my rancor. A bit of personal history:
When I was a young teenager, I tried to commit suicide. A serious attempt, not a “cry for help”. I didn’t announce it, tell anyone then or later. My family was very - well, unloving, uncaring, parents extremely distant and unreachable. I was an agonized, miserable soul. I was raised without any religious teaching, belief or values.
Luckily I did not go over the edge into death, although I could have easily. After I had swallowed bottles and bottles of pills - all kinds, whatever I could find - I lay down to face death. I felt completely alone, unloved, with no home or stability.
Then I realized that death was a door which I was going to enter, and I did not know where it led. Fear overcame my decision to die, and I managed to make myself vomit up countless pills. It had taken maybe a half an hour to swallow them all.
I did suffer some reactions - for instance, I went deaf for a weak - but survived. I thank God that I did not die that day.
Many people may think “I want to end it all” but then have second thoughts - too late.
Assisted suicide advocates want it to be part of the medical system. Medical professionals protect people from themselves every day. For example, every time a doctor orders a psych consult for a patient that s clinically depressed, they're protecting that person from themselves.
I have a message for you and all other assisted suicide trolls who claim you're advocating for personal freedom:
If you want to check out, put a plastic bag over your head and pump helium into it.
DO NOT screw up the medical system that takes care of me, my family and my friends.
DO NOT screw up the legal system that is supposed to protect my rights and those of my family, friends and descendants.
To do so stomps on myy personal liberties, and those of the people I love, and millions of people I have no connection to.
You want to punch out? Do it on your own. Exercise your personal freedom. Leave the rest of us— ALL of us —out of it.
If you can't get the difference between these two situations, it is certainly beyond my power to explain it to you. I'll just give you a warnng: Be careful what you advcate as noble, lest it become a duty for you someday.
"The magazine of the race-political office of the NSDAP."
The NSDAP is the formal name of the Nazi Party.
If only that guy on the poster had been as noble as a soldier, he could have whacked himself and through his sacrifice saved the fatherland a bag of cash, eh?
I thank God that you did not die that day. The world is a better place for you having been in it.
By your twisted logic, 3500 American women are "sacrificing" their children each day in abortuaries. They are doing this to save money, because children are expensive.
You are really sick.
I’m so glad that your attempt was unsuccessful, FRiend. God was with you that day. :)
What a blessing to you and FR that you escaped the jaws of death that day!
Thank you - even now, decades later, when I think of the despair and hopelessness that led not only to thoughts of suicide, but dangerous action that would have led to death had I not taken action, my skin crawls and sometimes tears well up in my eyes.
How many suicide cases have similar last thoughts of “Oh no!” but can’t reverse what they’ve done?
I am extremely thankful that I was saved, I do think by the unseen hand of God. He cares about every soul, even the atheists, which I was at that time.
Even more to the point, how would those same people feel if the people who claimed to love them were encouraging them to commit suicide for their own financial benefit?
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