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Wesley J. Smith: Switzerland's Suicide Tourism More Shocking Than Kevorkian's Escapades
Life News ^ | 12/15/08 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 12/15/2008 4:28:56 PM PST by wagglebee

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And here's the thing about media epitomized by this story: Even though it could be perceived as being critical of suicide tourism, there are no quotes from anymore that challenge the fundamental premises of the assisted suicide movement. Reporters, it seems, have sucked the cultural helium in a bag and don't feel the need to present contrary views.

The media has been cheering the culture of death for a long time.

1 posted on 12/15/2008 4:28:57 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/15/2008 4:29:50 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/15/2008 4:30:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"Suicide tourism?"

Not much hope for return business there.

4 posted on 12/15/2008 4:31:00 PM PST by x
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But the use of helium smacked to many Swiss of Nazi gas chambers

I love the irony.

They tore down the Berghof stone by stone, so barely the foundations remain - to keep Hitler's mountain retreat from becoming a tourist site.

And now they're promoting Switzerland as an attraction for a different final solution seventy years later.

Irony.

5 posted on 12/15/2008 4:33:28 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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Like a roach motel.


6 posted on 12/15/2008 4:33:44 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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7 posted on 12/15/2008 4:49:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Your use of "Pro-Life" to describe decision made by people who actually have free will is an affront to the millions of unborn children who never got a chance to live because of abortion doctors. It diminishes them wrongly, and you should be ashamed to use them in this manner.

8 posted on 12/15/2008 5:19:21 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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Sounds like we all should avoid visiting Switzerland.


9 posted on 12/15/2008 5:31:22 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Your use of "Pro-Life" to describe decision made by people who actually have free will is an affront to the millions of unborn children who never got a chance to live because of abortion doctors. It diminishes them wrongly, and you should be ashamed to use them in this manner.

How dare you accuse me of diminishing the effects of abortion! I personally post more pro-life threads than anyone here, NOBODY has EVER suggested that I am doing ANYTHING that is an "affront" to the unborn. But, I will still respond to your pathetic nonsense.

First of all, I do not have a pro-life ping list (though I am temporarily helping 8mmMauser out with the Terri Dailies list).

Secondly, it is YOU who does not seem to comprehend what the pro-life movement is about. Being pro-life means that ALL innocent life must be defended. Pro-life is not simply being anti-abortion.

If anyone should be "ashamed" it is those (perhaps you are among them) who believe they are pro-life even though they are also pro-euthanasia; this attitude is an disingenuous as those who claim to be "personally opposed" to abortion, but wouldn't want to deny someone else the "choice" to murder their child.

10 posted on 12/15/2008 5:32:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Your use of "Pro-Life" to describe decision made by people who actually have free will is an affront to the millions of unborn children who never got a chance to live because of abortion doctors. It diminishes them wrongly, and you should be ashamed to use them in this manner.
Wrong. Dead wrong. And for you to berate another poster over whatever odd fetish drives your wrongheaded decisionmaking process is wrong, offensively so.
11 posted on 12/15/2008 5:37:01 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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...NOBODY has EVER suggested that I am doing ANYTHING that is an "affront" to the unborn.

And now I have, and your abortion posts have nothing to do with the fact that you are lumping abortion and suicide together. They are in no way the same. In case you forgot, the unborn have no voice.

Secondly, it is YOU who does not seem to comprehend what the pro-life movement is about. Being pro-life means that ALL innocent life must be defended. Pro-life is not simply being anti-abortion.

Someone with a death wish is the innocent equivalent of unborn children? Please. And just because you say being Pro-life is not simply being anti-abortion doesn't make it so. My belief(which is just as valid as yours) about Pro-life is about ensuring all God's children have a right to be born and pursue whatever his plan is for them.

If anyone should be "ashamed" it is those (perhaps you are among them) who believe they are pro-life even though they are also pro-euthanasia;

You don't know what my opinion on suicide is, but rest assured my opinion is that it is in no way the equivalent of abortion.
I am not here to engage in a pissing match. If you want to downgrade the unborn by linking them with the suicidal, you will continue to. Just don't be so surprised that not everyone yells "Amen". Good night.

12 posted on 12/15/2008 5:55:36 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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NOBODY has EVER suggested that I am doing ANYTHING that is an "affront" to the unborn. ~ Wagglebee

And now I have ~ MovementConservative

And still, NOBODY has EVER suggested that Wagglebee is doing ANYTHING that is an "affront" to the unborn. NOBODY. That's who.

MC, you really have no idea what it means to be pro-life. You cannot be both pro-life and pro-euthanasia.

You speak corruptly about pursuing God's plan, as if to suggest that God wants us to commit the most egregious of sins.

It's true that we don't KNOW what your opinion on suicide is, but I'm going to guess it's relatively close to your statements on the subject. Why would you bother expressing opinions that you don't believe?

Just so you'll know, for future reference, Free Republic is a pro-life forum. Wagglebee's contribution to the pro-life movement is and has been substantial. He's not going to surrender to your agenda. So you may as well hang it up, before you make such an ass of yourself that you either get zotted, or crawl away with your tail between your legs.

13 posted on 12/15/2008 6:22:08 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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“Therefore He gave them over...”


14 posted on 12/15/2008 6:26:39 PM PST by avenir
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Could you please define your definition of “Pro-Life”?


15 posted on 12/15/2008 6:41:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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Gee whiz.

Rudy Maxa had just about convinced me to move to Switzerland, and now this.


16 posted on 12/15/2008 6:47:09 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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You have done as much or more than any other member on FR to promote life, in opposition to the culture of death. For Movement Conservative to verbally attack you is nothing short of irrational and nutso.

It is merely the other side of the evil Death Worship poison coin.


17 posted on 12/15/2008 7:07:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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I stand behind my position that equating the holocaust of abortion with suicide dimishes the voiceless who never had a chance to be born. When has an unborn baby ever chosen to be killed?
There is not one principle Jim Robinson listed in his "Statement by the founder of Free Republic" post on March 22, 2004 that I am not not in total agreement with. So no, I doubt I will be getting zotted or going away with my tail between my legs anytime soon.

As for the insults you hurl at me, that's a nice touch. Kinda tells me all I need to know about that person.

FYI, I have included the applicable section from Jim's post that details what FR is. Notice you will find direct reference to opposing abortion. Pro-Life=anti-abortion. If you want to read more into it, go ahead. Here it is for your reference.

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

18 posted on 12/15/2008 7:48:48 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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Where did you get the ridiculous notion that JR supports euthanasia?


19 posted on 12/15/2008 7:51:43 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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For Movement Conservative to verbally attack you is nothing short of irrational and nutso.

For Wagglebee to use the deaths of over 30 million babies due to abortion as an umbrella for a larger agenda of opposing assisted suicide deserves rebuke. Oppose assisted suicide on it's on merits, don't bring the voiceless babies into it.

20 posted on 12/15/2008 7:52:49 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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