I see. So the short form is good enough for the state department to issue a passport, but it is not good enough for you. Too bad for you.
Nonsense, you can't mean that.
No it's not nonsense, and yes I mean it.
When Obama shows a legitimate state form with a hospital name and the name of a real Hawaiian doctor and his signature, Certifigate vanishes.
The only thing he needs to prove is that he was born on US soil. Of what possible relevance is the name of the hospital and doctor?
If he was born in Kenya, he will be unable to provide that documentation. It's very simple.
If he were born in Kenya, the state of Hawaii would not issue an offical certificate (or certification, if you prefer) that says he was born in Honolulu. It's very simple.
Sure it is. That's why "certifigate" has 153,000,000 Google hits.
Truth is not measured by Google hits.
The tinfoilhatter would be genuinely interested to read about any errors you find in the article.
Pretty much everything there has been answered here:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-certificate/
Why so quick, curiosity, to give up the Republic?
Aren’t you just a wee bit curious about the man you voted for?
Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
Original birth certificate ——————————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -—————————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ————————— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————————— Unavailable
Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records-— Unavailable
Punahou School records-——————————————Unavailable
Occidental College records —————————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -———————————————— Unavailable
Columbia College ——————————————————Unavailable
Columbia thesis ———————————————————Unavailable
(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83)
Harvard College records -——————————————Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles ———————————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ——————————————————Unavailable
Medical records -———————————————————Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records -————————————None
Illinois State Senate schedule ————————————Lost
Law practice client list ———————————————— Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –—————— None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application—————————Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”
Selective Service Registration- -— Released, but under investigation as fraudulent
curiosity:”I see. So the short form is good enough for the state department to issue a passport, but it is not good enough for you.”
From what I understand, the state department has no interest in distinguishing whether a person is natural-born or naturalized citizen. For purposes of getting a US passport, either is acceptable. The state department will accept this certification because Hawaii accepts Obama as a citizen - it has nothing to do with Obama’s natural-born status...
Truth is not measured by Google hits.
American public interest is crudely measured by Google hits. You know, the same American public that Obama will be representing as President? Is it good for the country to have a large group of Americans believe that Obama would be an illegitimate President?
Regarding my link, you said:
Pretty much everything there has been answered here:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-certificate/
Your linked page does not answer "pretty much everything" from my linked piece, it answers nothing of it. It focuses on the question of whether or not the short form is a forgery, which is not even discussed in the linked piece. As I said, I don't care about the short form. Whether it is legitimate or a forgery, the long form or "root document" is what matters.
This, from your linked page, was cute:
Hawaii allows residents to register foreign-born children as being born in Hawaii: Hawaiian Law §338-17.8 says...The law cited preceding did not exist until its passage in 1982, 21 years after Barack Obama’s birth registration in 1961. See Figure 2 above.
This carefully avoids the question it pretends to answer: Could Obama's mother have obtained a Hawaiian birth certificate (or something similar) in 1961 had she given birth in Kenya? Just because a 1982 law was not in effect in 1961 says nothing about the law in 1961. Perhaps In 1961 mothers with infants recently born abroad were met at the airport upon their return to Hawaii and told, "Sorry, ma'am, you'll have to turn right around and take junior back to his country of origin." Or, maybe not. Perhaps the law in effect in 1961 was basically the same as the 1982 law. A real answer to this question, not a fake answer, would be helpful.
The piece I linked points out that the short form is not considered adequate documentation for paternity cases, and is not even adequate documentation for Hawaiian state agencies:
...DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”
Here is the question you won't answer: If the short form COLB is considered inadequate documentation for paternity suits and state agencies, why on earth should it be adequate documentation for Obama to assume the presidency? Why should second rate documentation be tolerated, when first-rate documentation can be so easily obtained?
Of what possible relevance is the name of the hospital and doctor?
Of what possible relevance is providing easily available documentation that would help confirm his place of birth, when a large group of Americans doubt his offered documentation? It is like asking "Of what possible relevance is water to a man dying of thirst?"
Here is all that Obama has to say:
I have asked the appropriate Hawaiian state agencies and the hospital where I was born to immediately release to the public all documents related to my birth.
Problem solved, unless he was born in Kenya.