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Bullet Serialization Threat in Georgia
Email From National Shooting Sports Foundation ^ | 11/15/08 | unknown

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:47:06 AM PST by epow

Legislation (SB 12) that would mandate, as early as 2010, bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of ammunition is identified and marked with a laser-engraved serial number -- was introduced, December 11th, by Senator Ronald Ramsey, Sr. in the Georgia State Senate. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association of the firearms and ammunition industry, has made clear that serializing ammunition on a mass production basis is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a de facto ban on ammunition.

NSSF is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact their state Senator and call the bill's sponsor, urging them to strongly oppose this would-be ammunition ban.

The domestic small arms ammunition industry produces between 10 and 12 billion ammunition cartridges a year at already low-profit margins. The three largest domestic manufacturers (who collectively account for the vast majority of the market) produce an estimated 20 million rounds of ammunition in a single day. Ammunition manufacturers could not serialize their product without hundreds of millions of dollars in capital investment to build the new factories that would be needed in order to meet the requirements of bullet serialization. The slowdown in the production process would result in what currently takes one day to produce into a nearly four-week effort.

Bullet Serialization is dangerous and not practical. This legislation which would mandate bullet serialization not only threatens law-abiding gun-owners but manufacturers' ability to supply the nation's law enforcement officers and military with high-quality ammunition.

Please call your state senator today and let them know that legislation mandating bullet serialization and also the destruction of previously owned non-coded ammunition will not improve public safety but rather put law-abiding citizens at risk.

Learn more about serialization at http://nssf.org/media/FactSheets/Microstamping.cfm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammocoding; ammunition; banglist; call; microstamping; senator; toddlizotte
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To: epow
Do any of these people ever think about how easy it is to make cartridges- a nineteenth-century technology.

Where do they think crooks will get ammunition if this law is passed?
81 posted on 12/15/2008 7:55:54 PM PST by dbz77
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To: MahatmaGandu
Easy. The point is to make ammo prohibitively expensive and it's also a step to registering ammo like they do in Europe. Since they can't ban guns they'll try to ban ammo.
Which would have the same effect as banning alcohol did.
82 posted on 12/15/2008 7:57:18 PM PST by dbz77
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To: tbpiper
As an example, saying something against homosexuality, biblicly based or not, may criminally 'wrong' as it is in Canada.
And in Saudi Arabia, it is illegal to call Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior.
83 posted on 12/15/2008 7:59:49 PM PST by dbz77
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To: PapaBear3625
If somebody is too dangerous to be allowed to buy firearms, then he's too dangerous to be allowed loose on the streets.
And yet, the anti-gunners never figure this simple fact out.
84 posted on 12/15/2008 8:01:15 PM PST by dbz77
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To: epow

They’ll never give up.

They fear the public’s guns because their own motives are tyrannical. We can’t simply vote them out; its an unstoppable ideology of fascism that permeates all but the most conservative.


85 posted on 12/15/2008 8:02:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Know et al
What about the people that reload their own ammo?

Simple, after the serialization law is in place the next step on their agenda will be to make it illegal to reload ammunition or to possess reloading equipment and/or ammunition components.

86 posted on 12/15/2008 8:14:59 PM PST by epow (Somewhere in Kenya a village is feeling proud of one of it's native-born sons.)
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To: domenad
Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem?

Uhhhm...because it'll only hamper law-abiding gun-owners and not criminals? Criminals can make their own bullets or file the serial number away.

Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons?

Didn't you read the article? The technology really isn't there right now for this. What ammunition manufacturer is going to spend millions of dollars upgrading their facilities to meet the law's requirements only to pass it onto consumers anyway?

I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment.

"I've been a Republican for 20 years BUT...." Rrrriiiiggghhhtt.

I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

What about the firm belief in the gun owner to be left alone?

87 posted on 12/15/2008 8:29:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: editor-surveyor
We can’t simply vote them out;

Then they may have to be taken out by some other means, just as our forefathers took out their British oppressors with cold steel and hot lead. But if we wait until our privately owned guns and ammunition have been outlawed bit by bit, law by law, it will be to late for that awful remedy.

I'm not advocating armed resistance to enforcement of unconstitutional laws. I'm 71, in much less than good health, and physically way past taking an active part in that kind of resistance to tyranny. Therefore I won't urge anyone else to go into harms way if I can't myself. But at some point the liberty loving Americans who own this nation will have to rise up in righteous anger and just say NO to any more unconstitutional laws and governmental infringement on ANY constitutionally guaranteed right. And there is only one NO that every would-be tyrant understands and fears, an aroused, armed, and determined citizenry.

I haven't had and expressed thoughts like that for quite some time. But with Obama on his way to the White House backed up by a large majority of liberals in Congress and on the federal bench, not to mention the civilian armed force that he plans to construct and command, we all may have good cause for more than a few such thoughts. There is always a potential tyrant on the hunt for an opportunity to exercise unwarranted authority over others, and he or she is always willing to take advantage of that opportunity by force if necessary. Only a fool or someone blissfully unaware of the people and events that are now or soon could be adversely affecting his or her life and welfare would seriously think that it can't happen here.

88 posted on 12/15/2008 10:00:38 PM PST by epow (Somewhere in Kenya a village is feeling proud of one of it's native-born sons.)
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To: DBrow
Get caught with an unserialized projectile, go to jail.

The Law of Unintended Consequences dictates that anyone about to be caught and go to jail for an unserialized projectile might as well up the ante.

90 posted on 12/16/2008 8:11:21 AM PST by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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To: epow
Simple, after the serialization law is in place the next step on their agenda will be to make it illegal to reload ammunition or to possess reloading equipment and/or ammunition components.
And they expect this to work out better than making it illegal to possess alcohol because...
91 posted on 12/16/2008 9:26:36 AM PST by dbz77
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To: KellyM37
If they ever dare try to confiscate ammo that people have and actually adopt this stupid encoding plan, get ready for the a not so pretty scene
If they try to confiscate the ammo, they will get a lifetime's supply of ammo.
92 posted on 12/23/2008 9:43:28 AM PST by dbz77
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To: epow
Bills pre-filed in the Georgia Senate
93 posted on 12/23/2008 9:48:52 AM PST by Amelia
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To: epow
Epow, what you say may be true. Too much complacency among citizens as bit by bit rights are taken away. People have to get mad, like in the incredible movie ‘Network’..... stand up, in numbers and say” We are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore”. The very fact that you even have to register a firearm is in my opinion a violation of the 2nd amendment. If criminals or terrorists, homegrown or abroad, want guns, they don't buy them legally and register them. The only people that register them are citizens that will never use them for a crime.
94 posted on 12/23/2008 10:21:35 AM PST by KellyM37
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To: domenad

Just outlaw crime,,works every time. Criminals hate it.


95 posted on 12/23/2008 10:26:17 AM PST by Waco (Oath? What oath?)
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To: domenad
I dont ever want a bullet tied to me. I like to shoot with anonymity.

But really it does not matter what bill they pass into law. I will always buy bullets that cannot be traced to me. I can go to black market if need be.

Eventually all patriots will have to be put into prison. They have to in order to take away our rights. The sheep will just comply and are not real Americans anyway.

96 posted on 01/04/2009 2:15:23 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (America land soon to be of the enslaved...)
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To: epow

Georgia is still a free state. Atlanta yankees don’t have enough votes to pass this bill. There are enough Confederate flag waving, gun-toating, native Georgians to defeat this. They still remember Kennesaw Mountain, and the burning of Atlanta. They will not be defeated


97 posted on 02/22/2009 3:19:40 PM PST by l8pilot
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