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UAW Was 'Solely' to Blame for Collapse of Auto Industry Bailout Negotiations, Says Sen. Coburn
CNS News ^ | December 15, 2008 | Josiah Ryan

Posted on 12/15/2008 5:44:50 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 12/15/2008 5:44:50 AM PST by SJackson
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If the UAW is not interested in compromise now, what makes anyone think they'll compromise after they get the $15 billion ?
They'll just ask for more.
2 posted on 12/15/2008 5:50:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SJackson

Bingo

Coburn is my favorite.


3 posted on 12/15/2008 5:56:13 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They probably assume under a new administration serious compromise will be unnecessary. At worst, they’ll get a far better deal.


4 posted on 12/15/2008 5:56:14 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

The bail out is for the UAW and its very attractive pensions. Congress is telling the rest of America they are not worth spit, but the UAW and its political clout (i.e., it’s in bed with the Dems) are sacred? Give me a friggin’ break! I will NEVER buy another vehicle from the Big 3. Toyota or Honda, here I come!


5 posted on 12/15/2008 5:58:15 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SJackson
it's insane to allow retirees to vote for either the contract or union officers

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6 posted on 12/15/2008 6:01:05 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: SJackson

“But UAW President Ron Gettelfinger in a press conference Friday morning blamed Republican senators, who he said resented his organization.”

That $450 billion in campaign contributions from the unions to the Democrats might have swayed the Republican feelings.


7 posted on 12/15/2008 6:02:48 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: SJackson

WATCHING FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn

Corker said UAW would NOT negotiate with Senate because they KNEW GWB would bail them out with no concessions, as with GWB Pelosi bill.


8 posted on 12/15/2008 6:04:29 AM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: ought-six

“Look for...
the Union Lay Bull...”

AND BUY SOMETHING WITHOUT IT.


9 posted on 12/15/2008 6:07:42 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: SJackson

Why wouldn’t the UAW want this “federal welfare check” delayed until they have the people in office who they paid millions to their campaigns. The UAW will get paid well for their Democrat support.

Anyone here ever read the political leftist propaganda in a UAW newsletter it hands out to it’s members? I have. It’s like visiting the Democratic Underground.

Is it now time for for the American people to have a reality check? There is no free lunch. If the federal government injects a trillion dollars of unearned money into the economy it will drastically devalue your and mine EARNED money.

Do you think these union people are fair and honest brokers? Park your American made Honda in a GM employee parking lot once. Sure, they have security cameras for the parking lot, so what?


10 posted on 12/15/2008 6:37:19 AM PST by reaganator
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To: ought-six

Same here. I’m boycotting UAW. The transplants make far better cars using hard working Americans.


11 posted on 12/15/2008 6:48:37 AM PST by I_BE_THE_ONE
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To: SJackson
Every time the union leaders are interviewed on TV, they say they've made 'enough concessions' already, but they are never specific as to what concessions have been made.

Based on the figures I've been seeing as regards their pay and benefits, if they've 'made concessions' I'd hate to have seen what the cost was before.

Frankly, I blame the unions AND management for the mess the auto companies are in.

12 posted on 12/15/2008 7:02:39 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: caver

A 52-35 Nay vote doesn’t sound like it all came from the Republican side. If the UAW gets a bailout I will never buy another big 3 car.


13 posted on 12/15/2008 7:03:33 AM PST by SueRae
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It was 52 yea votes, they needed 60 for closure before it could go to a vote that could pass with a 50+1 vote.
14 posted on 12/15/2008 7:07:58 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SueRae

“If the UAW gets a bailout I will never buy another big 3 car.”

I agree with you. There are many others I have heard say teh same thing. I think these pompous fools in D.C. are going to be surprised when the sales for UAW produced vehicles falls even further. I and many others will never buy from them again.


15 posted on 12/15/2008 7:08:42 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

I live in the Mid West. As some of you know, I work for GM in management. The union was asked to do something it legally could not do-contractual law. This was a GOP plan to kill the bill...a car czar with the proper powers can break the contract and will;the union expects this. It’s a matter of complicated law and has to be done in this context.

As for not buying GM cars. It’s your choice. We in the Mid West will come back and will not buy cars made in transplant states-nor will we spend our tourist dollars there. This will hurt these states in ways that will become apparent in the years to come. Our feeling is the foreign manufacturers already received a bailout courtesy of taxpayer money (subsidies to lure them to these states which in some cases included federal money). So if you buy one of these cars, you are already buying into a bailed out industry in many ways. The financial channel reports that it cost about $100,000 per worker in order to get this business. Of course Toyota pay $1500.00 bonus for any car sold in the US- this is subsidy and perhaps could be seen as a bail out by the standard used for the big three. By the by, those of us in the business have heard that while Tennessee (very uncertain in the economic slow down) might still get another transplant, Georgia is out of luck. The foreign plant will not be built. Also, there is a push to make sure that no federal money is used in these transplant deals. Too bad you bet on the foreigner company Gov. Barnes and didn’t offer anything for the Doraville GM plant in way of incentives-your lose.

Of course the Mid West will play its significant card in 2012 as our voters will vote overwhelmingly democratic thus dooming the election of any GOP presidential candidate. I will go third party myself. But as I pointed out in my vanity a couple of days ago...anger against the GOP is almost palpable here. Some chimed in on the thread about their Mid Western states. I live in Ohio, but an Indiana poster said it’s worse in his/her state. Some messaged me not wanting to get flamed by big three haters. The big three may very well disappear. I still do not see how anyone thinks losing industry is a good thing. However, the GOP will be severely damaged by this in the end. It’s a sad day for the party and for America.


16 posted on 12/15/2008 7:43:50 AM PST by bronxboy
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I hear what you are saying. I don’t want to see any companies go down or anyone lose their job, but the writing is on the wall. One or two of the big 3 will cease to exist, either sooner or later. If we put this off till later, it will only be worse. Might as well get it over with now.


17 posted on 12/15/2008 7:54:02 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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We need to put if off until later because if it happens now it takes everyone down. No American auto maker will survive. Also, the economy can not withstand such huge job losses across really 50 states. So it would be better if it happened after the economy improves somewhat.


18 posted on 12/15/2008 8:11:35 AM PST by bronxboy
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nor will we spend our tourist dollars there

As if you did anyway. That's a laugh. You have probably never been to a 'southern state'. You know that can work both ways.

Why would anyone want to buy a car from a company where the union runs things (as in bankrupt)?! For someone in 'management' you sure have a lot of time to post on FreeRepublic defending the UAW.

19 posted on 12/15/2008 8:12:17 AM PST by kcvl
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To: bronxboy

That is pure BS and to force people to agree to a bailout!


20 posted on 12/15/2008 8:14:09 AM PST by kcvl
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