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533,000 Jobs Lost in NOV -- But the Feds Imported Another 140,000 Foreign Workers the Same Month!
NumbersUSA ^ | Friday, December 5, 2008, 10:17 AM | Roy Beck,

Posted on 12/13/2008 11:24:56 AM PST by ckilmer

533,000 Jobs Lost in NOV -- But the Feds Imported Another 140,000 Foreign Workers the Same Month!

 

With the federal government reporting another giant loss of jobs for November, isn't it time to stop the massive importation of foreign workers?

Non-farm employers in the U.S. eliminated 533,000 jobs in November. At the same time, in a typical month the feds give out approximately 140,000 new work permits and green cards to foreign workers.

How can this make any sense for the American people's own government to be recruiting more competitors for a dwindling number of jobs? Month after month as hundreds of thousands of Americans lose their jobs, the feds keep pumping another 140,000 new foreign workers into the laborforce. 

The new foreign workers compete with the laid-off and underemployed highly skilled Americans in most professions and occupations, but most foreign workers compete directly in the construction, service and manufacturing industries where unemployment is the highest and where Americans have the least margin of financial security.

The feds add workers in two major ways.  

  • The most recent government data show that the feds granted greencards to 744,531 new working-age permanent immigrants (age 20-64) in 2007. Every one of them can immediately apply for a job (as can many more immigrants who are below and above that age range).  
  • The Department of Homeland Security reports that in the fiscal year just ended it issued NEW work permits to another 912,735 foreign workers who are not permanent immigrants.

That adds up to an astounding rate of 1,657,266 foreign workers per year, and that doesn't count renewals on foreign work permits or the flow of illegal workers.

While the new Congress and President determine how to best spend a trillion dollars to stimulate more jobs, they should immediately in January suspend most foreign-worker importation.  Limiting immigration mostly to nuclear families and our fair share of internationally recognized special needs refugees seems like the logical response to job-loss reports like the one today (Dec. 5).

ROY BECK is Founder & CEO of NumbersUSA



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreignworkers; jobs
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1 posted on 12/13/2008 11:24:56 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
That adds up to an astounding rate of 1,657,266 foreign workers per year, and that doesn't count renewals on foreign work permits or the flow of illegal workers.

okidokie, but it does not count outflows either, aka expirations and/or non renewals and does not count work visas given to US citizens abroad.

to do a true accounting, you need inflows and outflows,

when you balance your check book, you don't just count one, do you.

2 posted on 12/13/2008 11:29:45 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be manditory))
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To: staytrue
Outflows, LOL, let's see at 2500 to 2700 per day illegals that is another 80,000 a months, give are take a few thousand, but now back to those outflows.
3 posted on 12/13/2008 11:32:44 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: ckilmer
I'm out of work and I'll bet there are thousands of immigrants here doing a job I should be doing. I'm starting to get a little cranky.
4 posted on 12/13/2008 11:38:37 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I would have looked forward to debating anybody." -Sarah Palin)
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To: staytrue

Not to mention, at some point it becomes a stretch to call someone with a green card a “foreigner.”


5 posted on 12/13/2008 11:42:25 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
No it isn't a stretch. But it doesn't matter. Those like you who want to flood the country with immigrants, aliens and such.. are not going to win the next battle on this. With huge unemployment on the way... there will be NO patience for garbage like this anymore. When things get tough Americans tend to wake up. We WILL be clamping down whether you or your employer likes it or not.
6 posted on 12/13/2008 11:52:15 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: ckilmer

We have a shortage of nurses. For every student accepted, probably at least 10 other qualified ones didn’t make it. In two years we could fix this but we keep bringing in foreign nurses. They do a good job but situations like this just doesn’t make sense to me. Why are we not training Americans to do jobs that we have to import in?


7 posted on 12/13/2008 11:52:34 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: StolarStorm

I stopped reading at “those like you.” Surely what followed was BS.


8 posted on 12/13/2008 11:54:13 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ckilmer

There absolutely should be a law that limits the number of imported workers during a recession like this. If this doesn’t disenfranchise the American worker, I don’t know what does.


9 posted on 12/13/2008 11:55:06 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve read your posts for years and years. For some reason ... and I’m sure its personal... you are far more pro-immigrant than pro-american.


10 posted on 12/13/2008 11:55:29 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

One other thing . . . if I addressed you (please be reminded that I don’t know who you are and don’t care) with a comment that started with “those like you,” your frillies would get into such a twist you’d call your boyfriend in tears.


11 posted on 12/13/2008 11:57:38 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: CindyDawg
We have a shortage of nurses. For every student accepted, probably at least 10 other qualified ones didn’t make it. In two years we could fix this but we keep bringing in foreign nurses. They do a good job but situations like this just doesn’t make sense to me. Why are we not training Americans to do jobs that we have to import in?

If the nursing schools were to expand and graduate more nurses to fill the void then they wouldn't be able to charge such ridiculous prices for nursing education. It's a closed market. They don't WANT there to be enough nurses.

12 posted on 12/13/2008 11:58:15 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: ckilmer; staytrue; LiberConservative; 1rudeboy

Who could ever forget this classic YouTube video of the despicable (but rich) Philadelphia lawyer Lawrence Lebowitz (of sleazebucket firm Cohen & Grigsby) teaching his audience how to cheat the L1 work visa system for fun and profit.

http://www.youtube.com/programmersguild

-— AND ——

http://www.programmersguild.org/docs/cohen.html

List of Employers who utilize the Cohen & Grigsby American worker displacement services

June 24, 2007 - In the now infamous YouTube video, (Covered in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and Philadelphia Daily News) attorney Lawrence Lebowitz explains how the law firm of Cohen & Grigsby undermines the spirit of the law to exclude all qualified Americans who apply for a job. They accomplish this by running PERM fake job ads. Prior H-1b filings by Lebowitz suggest PERM processing he will do in the future. (See www.programmersguild.org/RIR/ for tips on how to recognize these fake job ads.)


13 posted on 12/13/2008 11:59:03 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m sorry that a simple phrase like “those like you” was so emotionally upsetting to you. My apologies. My intent was really to focus on the fact that things have changed in the economy and thus the tolerance for massive immigration is at an end.


14 posted on 12/13/2008 11:59:35 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

Think about how mystified I am—I make a correct observation about green cards and you go into menopause.


15 posted on 12/13/2008 12:00:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Excuse me?


16 posted on 12/13/2008 12:02:27 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: raybbr

I’ve heard that rumor too. I think it’s more of not having enough teachers and getting government approval to open new schools which takes a long time. Don’t focus just on nurses though. We bring in a lot of highly skilled people in many fields. Why aren’t Americans being trained to do these jobs? We waste a lot of time in high school and college on social programs. Why not expect every American that gets a tax money education to come out knowing a trade? JAT


17 posted on 12/13/2008 12:03:52 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: StolarStorm

Sorry. “Those like you” go into menopause.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 12:05:42 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m not interested in playing flame war games with an immature person like yourself. Good bye.


19 posted on 12/13/2008 12:06:42 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: CindyDawg
I’ve heard that rumor too. I think it’s more of not having enough teachers and getting government approval to open new schools which takes a long time.

That may be part of it. My wife went through nursing school and they spent most of the time trying "weed out the bad ones" than educating. They claim they can't allow bad nurses but they just made it really tough so they would fail. There was a 50% failure rate.

Why weren't they helping them get through instead letting them fail? They know they will always have a waiting list.

We waste a lot of time in high school and college on social programs. Why not expect every American that gets a tax money education to come out knowing a trade? JAT

That's true.

20 posted on 12/13/2008 12:08:26 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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