Posted on 12/12/2008 5:09:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Chinese dissidents emulate anti-Soviet heroes with Charter 08
Chinese intellectuals have challenged the country's Communist leaders to end one-party rule with the launch of Charter 08, a throw-back to the Charter 77 declaration of Soviet-era Czechoslovakian dissidents.
By Richard Spencer in Beijing
Last Updated: 3:56PM GMT 09 Dec 2008
The bold plea for political reform calls on the government to allow freedom of expression and association and to give up Communist Party control over the legal system.
Its launch coincides with Wednesday's 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and is one of the most dramatic steps taken by dissidents since a crack down during the run-up to the Beijing Olympics.
The authorities have already moved against those responsible, an informal group headed by lawyers and journalists, according to some of the more than 300 signatories to the document.
Several have been detained for questioning, and one of China's most prominent dissidents, Liu Xiaobo, who was imprisoned after the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, was still being held on Tuesday night.
"After we handed over the Charter, I was detained by the police," said Zhang Zuhua, a writer and political analyst. "Right now the police have searched my home. My computer and documents have all been taken away.
"I am now being held at my home. I can't go anywhere. I don't know what will happen to me next. But I was told by the police that they are carrying out a formal investigation, so I think there will soon be further punishment."
Other signatories have been detained in Zhejiang province in central China, and Guizhou in the south.
The original Charter 77 was a declaration by dissidents in Soviet-era Czechoslovakia which called upon the then Communist government to ratify United Nations human rights conventions,...
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Ping!
The foreign policy argument in favor of trade with China has always been that over time a ground swell for freedom would emerge as their lives improved because of the commerce. This group may well get repressed, but they might just be an indicator of good things to come.
Our grteatest weapon in foreign policy has always been trade.
“Chinese dissidents emulate anti-Soviet heroes with Charter 08
Chinese intellectuals have challenged the country’s Communist leaders to end one-party rule with the launch of Charter 08, a throw-back to the Charter 77 declaration of Soviet-era Czechoslovakian dissidents. “
So the Chinese are throwing off the chains of socialism/communism and the great thinkers in America have just turned our country over to a bunch of communist’s and are in the middle of nationalizing everything.
Before the good time comes along, you will see real ugly time, in which their war toyed produced with the money earned from foreign trade will be directed against the trading partner.
Actually, many these business are more than happy to play down "bad news" from inside China. They can organize the likes of Charter 08 without MFN status to China.
Other than safety issues with the products produced I really don't want to see restrictions. If a country subsidizes their products in the long run their people suffer and a desire for open trade will develop.
Before the good time comes along, you will see real ugly time, in which their war toyed produced with the money earned from foreign trade will be directed against the trading partner.
The threat from China is not as great as people fear. Due to their one child policy they have a demographic time bomb. They are getting older even quicker than we are. It is India that is emerging as the economic powerhouse of the future. India in addition to being young has a highly educated workforce and because they are an emerging power is highly motivated.
China having aging population, but it has more than enough young population, too. It is always the business folks' comforting illusion that China's behavior is within their expectation. They don't bother to read Chinese history, except Marco Polo fairy tale.
India can outgrow China, but it would be not as much a threat.
Laughable, did your champagne sipping buddies at Davos teach you all that? The fundamentals of economic growth are productivity and capital, not warm bodies. If population growth decided economic growth, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, and Afghanistan should be booming. Over %30 of Indians cannot even read! By any realistic measure India has a young, poorly educated, low productivity labor force that is growing coupled with straitjacket labor laws. It takes a particular breed of American idiot on par with the Soviet apparatchik to be so willfully oblivious to the truth. It’s no wonder the United States is spirally towards insolvency and a government default.
Is the current trade situation more likely to collapse the Chinese system, ... or OUR OWN?
How in the world is sending our jobs, our money and our knowhow to China, helping us?
Wake up.
Time for a good, spirited trade war.
Your kind have screwed things up enough.
Get out of the way.
The main problems of China's Communism regime is from inside, that is, the regime messed up themselves, little from outsiders' contribution. China's ageing problem is all blamed for the regime's short-viewed one child policy. And the environment problems also.
Its the communist's terrible governmence that set fire to themselves, not by the free-trade ideology. In fact, I somehow believed that "free-trade" in effect strengthened communists' ruling power. If the world hadn't open its market to China since the bloodshed of Tian'anmen 1989, I think the communism had already been thrown by Chinese people at least ten years ago.
Chinese laws are becoming straight-jacket-er faster than India’s laws are liberalizing. You should hear your Chicom propaganda - ridiculous but I must say you have a sense of humor - the twisted chicom variety. “Uneducated” people to me sound like an opportunity for the education industry. Of course you chicoms don’t understand the service industry - partly why you’ll always be the worlds slave labor at best.
Talking about how educated your own countrymen are - here’s what a college-educated marketing executive working in a Chinese factory that produces colored glass wrote to one of her clients.
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Dear [Oops she forgot the name]
for the attached picture you sent, we quote FOB shanghai or ningbo USD56.00/per square metre
so happy to know you have seen this kind of art glass in china.and welcome to China and our company.
i am [deleted] from [deleted] Art Glass Products CO.,LTD, in China .our art glass are top ten class in china, we have good quality and reputation. i hope we can cooperate happily.
Firstly i would like to give you a brief introduction about our art glass:
we do processing on float glass and make them unique art works,Our glass is suit for home, office and hotel decoration,in other word ,they are for luxury decoration.
normally ,our art glass have our design size, but we can do according to your requirements. and our wholesale price is about usd80-130/m2 FOB shanghai or ningbo , the price depends on the design,quantity and the processing method we use.
we have the following methods for processing art glass:
1.sandblasting and colouring USD80-130/m2
2.acid-etching and colouring USD80-130/m2
3.hand carving and colouring (it’s our special processing method, looks very good) USD90-130/m2
4.lead lighting USD50-70/m2
and we normally make our art glass through combining the above processing methods.and the glass are tempered. and its colour don’t peeling off after years.but for oil painting the color will.
frankly speaking, you won’t buy our products when you only see our pictures from our website, because you don’t know how they are really looks like.but our foreign clients who attend trade fair are really shocked by our unique art glass. i hope you also love them once you get our products.
you can choose some designs to have a try. once you are satisfied with our products ,we will send you our CD which have thousands of designs for you to choose.
or for the picture,pls kindly choose in our website or supply your designs and valuable suggestion.
If you have any problem,pls kindly don’t hesitate to contact me.
Good Luck [Sure I’ll need it sourcing lead-tainted sh*t from china]
Thanks&Regards
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This was a business email - so muh for your graduates.
And it looks like even Chinese agree that being Chinese is near deplorable. Gong Li included.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7754179.stm
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