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Jim Rogers calls most big U.S. banks "bankrupt"
Reuters ^ | 2008-12-11 | Jonathan Stempel

Posted on 12/11/2008 6:03:58 PM PST by rabscuttle385

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Jim Rogers, one of the world's most prominent international investors, on Thursday called most of the largest U.S. banks "totally bankrupt," and said government efforts to fix the sector are wrongheaded.

Speaking by teleconference at the Reuters Investment Outlook 2009 Summit, the co-founder with George Soros of the Quantum Fund, said the government's $700 billion rescue package for the sector doesn't address how banks manage their balance sheets, and instead rewards weaker lenders with new capital.

Dozens of banks have won infusions from the Troubled Asset Relief Program created in early October, just after the Sept 15 bankruptcy filing by Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc (LEHMQ.PK). Some of the funds are being used for acquisitions.

"Without giving specific names, most of the significant American banks, the larger banks, are bankrupt, totally bankrupt," said Rogers, who is now a private investor.

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The FDIC is also bankrupt.
1 posted on 12/11/2008 6:03:59 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 12/11/2008 6:04:40 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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3 posted on 12/11/2008 6:04:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

blowhard camera-whore alert.


4 posted on 12/11/2008 6:05:10 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Do you think most major banks are solvent? Except Wells Fargo and a select set of mid-tier banks, the rest are bankrupt considering their CDS exposures.


5 posted on 12/11/2008 6:08:47 PM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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To: BobB152

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6 posted on 12/11/2008 6:09:34 PM PST by stockpirate (Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Most of them are morally bankrupt as well.


7 posted on 12/11/2008 6:12:01 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: indcons

What is CDS exposure?


8 posted on 12/11/2008 6:12:26 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: the invisib1e hand

I liked what Rogers said when the first bailout bill was in the news. When the Fox repoter askes him what he thought we should do he said, “First thing we do is shoot everyone in congress”.


9 posted on 12/11/2008 6:14:21 PM PST by stockpirate (Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!)
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To: indcons; All

To be fair the only banks that I know are solid are Wells Fargo, Bank of America and US Bank..


10 posted on 12/11/2008 6:16:43 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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What is CDS exposure?

I don't know, but I would think a prophylactic would have been in order.

11 posted on 12/11/2008 6:17:06 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: indcons
Banks To Government: Keep Your Money (BXS, CBSH)
12 posted on 12/11/2008 6:20:36 PM PST by kc8ukw
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To: Texas Fossil

Credit Default Swap - A credit default swap (CDS) is a credit derivative contract between two counterparties. The buyer makes periodic payments to the seller, and in return receives a payoff - if an underlying financial instrument defaults.

The underlying financial instruments, in many cases, are the overvalued mortgages that have lost their values.


13 posted on 12/11/2008 6:20:53 PM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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What is CDS exposure?

CDS stands for Credit Default Swaps, a type of derivative security that acts kinda like insurance (on default of a particular debt). Unfortunately, the "big boys" were making all sorts of crazy bets using CDS. Add that to the fact that CDS, like other types of derivatives, are kinda hard to understand and require complex mathematics and computational power, and that they are loosely regulated...and you have the makings of a perfect financial storm.

14 posted on 12/11/2008 6:21:18 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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Anyone know how HSBC is doing? Trying to decide whether to switch to little local bank, or leave whatever little money we have there.


15 posted on 12/11/2008 6:22:09 PM PST by jacquej
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To: the invisib1e hand
blowhard camera-whore alert.

LOL, so true.

16 posted on 12/11/2008 6:23:15 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: driftdiver
The Country is morally bankrupt. This is not a new problem.

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Adversity employs great talents; prosperity renders them useless and carries the inept, the corrupted wealthy and the wicked to the top.

May they bear in mind that virtue often contains the seeds of tyranny.

May they bear in mind that it is neither gold nor even a multitude of arms that sustains a state, but its morals.

May each of them keep in his house, in a corner of this field, next to his workbench, next to his plow, his gun, his sword, and his bayonet.

May they all be soldiers.

May they bear in mind that in circumstances where deliberation is possible, the advice of old men is good, but that in moments of crisis youth is generally better informed that its elders.

Denis Diderot

Apostrophe to the Insurgents, 1782

17 posted on 12/11/2008 6:23:31 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: the invisib1e hand

which is why I use a dutch bank. ING direct all the way.


18 posted on 12/11/2008 6:24:10 PM PST by utherdoul
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The FDIC is also bankrupt

Their "insurance" was always an illusion...

19 posted on 12/11/2008 6:25:04 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: jacquej; All

I don’t know....


20 posted on 12/11/2008 6:25:06 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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