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'Companies could be sued over climate change'
American Thinker ^ | December 10, 2008 | The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley

Posted on 12/10/2008 11:04:25 PM PST by neverdem

The scare

In early December 2008, The Guardian, a newspaper of the British Left and an unquestioning true-believer in the catastrophist version of climate alarm, quoted Professor Myles Allen, a physicist at Oxford University, as saying computer models such as one that he has developed can now ascribe individual extreme-weather events to anthropogenic "global warming", allowing environmental pressure groups to sue the corporations they believe are to blame for the catastrophic heating of the planet. Professor Allen joked, "We are starting to get to the point that when an adverse weather event occurs we can quantify how much more likely it was made by human activity."

He said his team had used a "new technique" of comparing two models -- one including and one excluding anthropogenic greenhouse-gas emissions -- to identify the impact of manmade "global warming" and, for instance, to work out whether "global warming" worsened the UK floods in 2007, which inundated 10,000 properties and forced the evacuation of 11,000 people from their homes. He added that people affected by floods could "potentially" use the findings to begin legal action. He said, "It's just a question of computing power. We can work out whether climate change has loaded the dice and made extreme weather more likely. And once the risk is doubled, then lawyers get interested."


The truth

Even the UN's climate panel, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, admits in its 2001 report that the climate is a "complex, non-linear, chaotic object" whose long-run evolution cannot be predicted by any method. In this the panel echoes the celebrated paper Deterministic Non-Periodic Flow, with which the mathematician Edward Lorenz founded the new mathematical discipline of chaos theory in 1963. Precisely because the climate is, in mathematical terms, a chaotic object, it is altogether impossible to predict the likelihood, timing, magnitude, duration, or even the sign of any "phase transition" - the mathematical term for a sudden, extreme event that temporarily disrupts what otherwise appears to be the steady state of the object. For this reason, it is not possible to ascribe individual extreme-weather events to "global warming", as the IPCC makes explicitly clear in both its 2001 and 2007 reports.

The UK flooding of 2007, mentioned by Professor Allen, cannot in any event or by any stretch of the imagination be ascribed to "global warming", because at the time when it occurred the planet had been cooling for almost six years, and there had been no statistically-significant net warming for 12 years. It is always possible, however, to construct a model that overemphasizes the imagined impact of increased atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration on temperature, and then to claim that without this (exaggerated) influence the extreme-weather event in question would not have occurred.

There would certainly be no prospect of anyone successfully pursuing a prosecution of alleged polluters on the basis of such attempts to pretend that the evolution of a chaotic object can be modeled with sufficient precision to determine whether an individual event was caused by "global warming". The standard of proof in criminal cases is "beyond reasonable doubt": and Lorenz has long proved beyond reasonable doubt that computer models such as those of Professor Allen cannot do what he says they can do. See also Giorgi (2005).

In civil cases, the proof is less exacting: the issue would be decided "on the balance of probabilities". Once again, however, Lorenz's paper would stand firmly in the way of a successful civil suit against alleged "polluters" said to have caused "global warming" and hence to have triggered some extreme-weather phase-transition or another. Since it is impossible "by any method" (Lorenz's words) to predict the long-run evolution of a chaotic object, and since we know that "long-run" means less than six weeks when applied to an object as complex as the climate, it is likewise impossible to evaluate the probability that a particular extreme-weather event was triggered by a particular corporation acting in a particular manner between particular dates causing a particular quantum of "global warming" - especially given the inconvenient truth that the planet has been cooling for seven years.

It can readily be demonstrated that the contribution of even the largest fossil-fuel corporation to total "global warming" (if there were any) is infinitesimal. To take an example: if one were to close down the entire UK economy, flinging the nation back into the Stone Age but without even the ability to light a fire, global greenhouse-gas emissions would fall by 2% - and only that much on the assumption that the lost production in the UK was not made up in other countries such as China, where - to make matters worse - carbon emissions per unit of (inefficient) production are close to twice those of the UK. In such circumstances, no proof even on the balance of possibilities would be possible.

Furthermore, any fossil-fuel corporation sued by environmental pressure groups (or by stooge plaintiffs funded by them) would be entitled to plead that governments had not made the emission of fossil fuels illegal and, therefore, that they were legitimately entitled to continue their emissions -- always subject to whatever pointless "carbon taxes" or "cap-'n'-trade schemes the government had introduced. Properly speaking, therefore, even if there were a potential case against any corporation as a result of Professor Allen's over-hyped claims (which there is not), it would be governments and not corporations against whom the actions would lie. And governments, just like the corporations, would be entitled to argue that a balance has to be struck between flinging their people into poverty caused by the shutdown of industries dependent upon carbon emissions for their energy and transport, on the one hand, and the (negligible) imagined risk that carbon emissions will cause catastrophic "global warming".

Slowly but surely, the number of news media willing to give credence to fantasies such as those which Professor Allen puts forward is declining as the truth dawns: carbon dioxide's impact on "global warming" is small, harmless, and largely beneficial. In practice, the international, alarmist Left has taken very great care not to get into court battles over the science behind "global warming", because the courts, unlike the majority of the news media, are obliged to give a full and fair hearing to both sides of the story. Therefore, all of the "global warming" court cases instigated by the alarmist faction have been sweetheart cases, where both sides secretly want the same outcome. The recent case by lavishly-funded environmental groups against the US Secretary of the Interior to order him to make a decision on listing polar bears as an "endangered species" was a prime example: Mr. Kempthorne was as much a true-believer as those who were apparently suing him, and the court was in effect used as a mere rubber-stamp, in which no real argument was heard.

The alarmist faction knows that, if it were to bring a case against a corporation whose executives were not minded merely to believe in the extremist presentation of "global warming" just because it is temporarily in fashion, they would lose. The case of Dimmock v. Secretaries of State for Education and for the Environment in the UK in 2007 was a very clear warning. The UK Government threw all of the resources of the taxpayer and of the Meteorological Office at the case, attempting to defend Al Gore's sci-fi comedy horror movie against the plaintiff's allegation that it was serially and seriously inaccurate. The Government failed and was humiliated. The judge, having heard both sides, said bluntly of Al Gore, and particularly of his unscientific allegation that sea level was about to rise by 20 feet, that "the Armageddon scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view". A few more judgments like that and the "global warming" fantasy would rapidly collapse. End of scare.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigmoney; climatechange; climatecycles; climatruthers; globalcooling; globalwarming

1 posted on 12/10/2008 11:04:25 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If they can’t bully somebody, they sue them. Incredible

We’re already in Bizarro World, we’re just seeing the different areas.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 11:05:07 PM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: neverdem
yeah and some GLOBAL WARMING just fell in HOUSTON TEXAS this evening.

GLOBAL WARMING is pure & simple mind control bullsh!t by the left.

3 posted on 12/10/2008 11:12:40 PM PST by prophetic (God, let Obama speak utter foolishness and confound the wisdom of his counselors)
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To: neverdem

Can I sue myself?

I can get a big jackpot justice payday plus the legal fees I earn from overbilling myself.


4 posted on 12/10/2008 11:18:57 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: neverdem
'Companies could be sued over climate change'

Yeah, bring it on baby.

show us your "proof"......LOL!

I'd call Al Gore and God as my witnesses.

Why?

Because when Al Gore shows up anywhere for a Global Warming event the temperature plummets and then I'd attribute it to my other witness as proof...LOL

5 posted on 12/10/2008 11:19:31 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Can I sue myself?

Don't laugh.

There's a French company that made a chemical used in plastics that wasn't making a profit.

They moved their operation to third world countries where they were able to stiff the UN for huge amounts of money because they destroyed the by product of their own manufacturing process that would otherwise have been a "pollutant"

They make more money destroying the pollutants they create than they do selling the product they manufcature..

6 posted on 12/10/2008 11:24:45 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: neverdem

bump


7 posted on 12/10/2008 11:50:26 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: neverdem
professor,

nobody buys "models" anymore.

8 posted on 12/11/2008 12:09:21 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: neverdem

Sure,and if a bumper crop of soybeans is grown in a once frosty Greenland,these companies can sue for a piece of the profit.

AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) is a lucrative hoax for many interests.


9 posted on 12/11/2008 2:19:24 AM PST by Happy Rain ("The decline started when the American Republics became the American Republic..")
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To: neverdem

Good article. However, it’s time to play offense instead of continuously wasting tons of time showing how ridiculous each ridiculous claim and scare truly is. Some conservative think tank needs to start developing a model that ascribes societal and governmental costs to the original “scientific” model or study that was the root cause. Once the model or study (a.k.a. periodic scare) is proved to be incorrect, it’s time to sue the originating “scientists”, “activists” and funders of such costly propaganda.


10 posted on 12/11/2008 2:41:22 AM PST by winner3000
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To: neverdem; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ..
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 12/11/2008 2:55:59 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: neverdem
That's him.
He's the one.
He said there is no such thing as Global Warming...


12 posted on 12/11/2008 3:38:49 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: neverdem

Professor Myles Allen, a physicist at Oxford University, is not going to make a dent in the next US Senate climate change report featuring 650 dissenting, prize-winning scientists.


13 posted on 12/11/2008 3:59:58 AM PST by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = 2 memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: Wil H

You could also call “The Invisible Spirit” that only You can Hear” as witness.

His testimony would be crucial


14 posted on 12/11/2008 8:54:40 AM PST by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: neverdem
Professor Myles Allen, a physicist at Oxford University, as saying computer models such as one that he has developed can now ascribe individual extreme-weather events to anthropogenic "global warming", allowing environmental pressure groups to sue the corporations they believe are to blame for the catastrophic heating of the planet.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but jury trials are not allowed in Great Britain. So, although their judges are no more likely to be science-savvy than in the US, they at least must know what they don't know and listen to both sides of the issue. "Speculation" is not science.

I have never watched a pay-per-view telecast (and never intend to) but I would make an exception for the chance to watch Lord Monkton as an expert defence witness.

And then there's this:

Confirmed

...and this:

Problems with Climate Models

Most Americans don't know what a computer model is, or how it's created. Two programmers with the identical data to start with, can create a program which will invariably arrive at opposite conclusions. That's a fact.
Gathering data is a science, if done competently. Writing a computer program is not. Art? sometimes. Propaganda? More and more.

The conclusive test of a climate computer model, any model --- which has never been achieved --- is to input weather data from say 1960 to 1970, and have the model "predict" what has already occured and can be verified during the 1970s and 1990s...

Hasn't happened yet.

15 posted on 12/11/2008 1:06:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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16 posted on 12/11/2008 2:53:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

We’ve had 17” of “Global Warming” so far this month and it’s freakin’ cold too. Can I sue Al Gore for getting my hopes up that Milwaukee should be positively tropical by now?


17 posted on 12/11/2008 5:04:34 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Hope is gone. Change is coming.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 12/11/2008 8:42:42 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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