Will the anti-Obama zealots give the birth allegations a rest?

Rocky Mountain News ^ | 12/9/08 | Editors

[pissant]

By refusing on Monday to hear a lawsuit challenging whether Barack Obama is indeed eligible under the Constitution to become the 44th president, the U.S. Supreme Court should have put to rest the fanciful rumors about the president-elect.

Yet the justices' action will not end the fringe conspiracy-mongering. David Weigel reported in Slate that Obama's foes have mailed "information" packets to presidential electors in advance of their Dec. 15 vote; right-wing activist Bob Schultz, who has orchestrated the campaign, says electors who vote for Obama are committing "treason to the Constitution."

May we offer some advice? Get a life. It appears that the phenomenon known as Bush Derangement Syndrome - with unhinged left-wingers willing to believe any scurrilous rumor about the 43rd president - has a mirror image on the right.

Some claim that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and his birth certificate was faked. Others concede he was born in Hawaii but say he gave up his U.S. citizenship at age 6 when his mother, who married a citizen of Indonesia, moved the family to that nation.

It's difficult to believe rational adults can take these allegations seriously (and they have in fact been debunked). Obama served eight years in the Illinois legislature and most of one term in the U.S. Senate. If he were not a citizen, don't you think at least one of his campaign opponents would have found the proof to make that charge stick?

Even if the facts were murky, however, what possible point is there to raising them at this time? Does anyone seriously believe a court is going to try to bar from office the candidate chosen as president by a clear majority of voters? What do these zealots want, civil disorder?

[Star Traveler]

You said — “I really don’t see what’s so difficult or “tin-foil-hat” about a simple request to see the birth certificate of someone who wants to be President, in order to ensure that they are eligible for the job.”

I see this type of question a lot and I wonder about the people who ask it. They keep saying, “I don’t see what the problem is....”

WELL..., the problem, very simply — is — if Obama shows it, he can’t be President of the United States... LOL...

[MortMan]

How about we call ourselves “Birthers” ?!? ;-P

[dennisw]

TRUST BUT VERIFY-— Ronald Reagan

Why should I trust this guy who is so haughty he won’t produce the proper birth certificate? 0 can FOAD

[dennisw]

If he were not a citizen, don't you think at least one of his campaign opponents would have found the proof to make that charge stick?

Beyond stupid. We are talking about "natural born citizen" per the US Constitution

[Carley]

Double Hell NO

[Repeal The 17th]

Bookmark

[Beckwith]

Joe Thunder said, “I barely know where to begin. OK, Big news for Tuesday, 12/9/08 and Friday 12/12/08. Leo Donfrio’s case was denied today, BUT Cort Wrotnowski’s case was distributed for conference by all nine SCOTUS Justices this coming Friday morning. Leo’s legal arguments were a large bases portion of Cort’s. Leo strengthened the arguments in Cort’s case, AND both Leo and Cort are heading to the SCOTUS Tuesday to file a supplemental brief further strengthening Cort’s case. They will answer questions from the media at the SCOTUS steps at 11:00AM.”

This is far from over.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

[silverleaf]

Does anyone seriously believe a court is going to try to bar from office the candidate chosen as president by a clear majority of voters? What do these zealots want, civil disorder?

So the Rocky Mountain News endorses mob rule. And makes it sound like civil disorder is a worse alternative than unchallenged sedition and subversion of our Constitution. Yet let a Christian group try to sing carols in a city holiday parade and we see the liberal supporters of the Constitution out in full force to stop them.

[Vision]

Get creative.

[himno hero]

and the fact that he was steeped in islamic culture and islamic values while being schooled (as islamic) in Indonesia.

as such what does he know about western culture, roles,relationships and responsibility? Subsequently, once he got to America he hooked up with Ayers(and others who fail to come forward) and cultured that shared philosophy.....

trojan alert! trojan alert!

[waxer1]

I feel the same. But I do listen. However when Laura starts screaming about the Constitution I just roll my eyes.

When the fairness doctrine raises its ugly head, and it will, when laura et al start screaming for us to contact our representatives, I am going to send them an email that will basically tell them to suck it up. Where were you when we needed you before the electors met and voted.

Don’t get me wrong I love to listen to them, but they show no courage at all. Part of being a Patriot and defender of the republic requires sacrifice and being open to ridicule. These people have none of that. It is easier to play it safe.

I have seen more courage here on FR than I have ever seen from these talk show hosts.

I am so proud to be part of it.

[Instant_Krazy_Glue]

What do these zealots want, civil disorder?

  We have disorder in government. The U.S. Constitution is all we have left and following the Constitution gives us a constitutional republic. Not following the Constitution leads to mob rule rather than the rule of law.

[Brightfame53]

Well put. McCain addressed his Constitutional eligibility issues last spring by releasing his birth certificate publicly in the U.S. Congress. Obama, meanwhile, has devoted considerable legal expense during the past six months to ensuring that no one can access his birth certificate. It’s pretty clear that the President-elect doesn’t feel that the release is in his best interest, and every American who cast his/her vote for Obama ought to wonder why. Maybe he’s concerned about identity theft? Not very darn likely!

TRANSPARENCY, Obama, T-R-A-N-S-P-A-R-E-N-C-Y...You tossed the word around freely during your campaign, but it’s clear now that you believe openness and transparency in government should apply to everyone EXCEPT YOU. Hopefully the Supreme Court will now take on the responsibility the Federal Election Commission and 50 Secretaries of State have ignored — by verifying your eligibility for office!

[slowhandluke]

. If he were not a citizen, don't you think at least one of his campaign opponents would have found the proof to make that charge stick?

No

Hillary needed to be careful, as she didn't really need to have a campaign that caused folks to look into past criminality on her part.

McCain didn't want to go 'dirty'. You could have handed him proof that Obama had sold his soul to the devil, and he would have ignored it.

The problem might be one of cognitive dissonance. You can't treat Obama as the loyal opposition and a total fraud at the same time.

Or it might just be a big enough lie. Tell a big enough lie and folks just won't believe it's a lie.

One thing neither party seems to believe in anymore is the rule of law. So little nits, like not being constitutional qualified for the position, can be ignored.

[usmcobra]

If Obama was truly an American he’d step forward with his original birth certificate even if it was issued in Kenya and claim to be a natural born citizen and fight to define that term by legal means.

If Obama wanted the best for our country he’d prove his allegiance to it’s constitution and it’s government by proving beyond the shadow of any doubt he loves it and is qualified legally and morally to lead it, all he has to do is show his original vault copy birth certificate and not some 2007 copy either forged or issued just for his campaign purposes and seen only on the internet in the form of JPGs on site he has direct or indirect control over.

No one save for those he has granted a special audience to has actually touched the 2007 copy of his Certification of Live Birth, it has never been inspected verified or even matched against his original vault copy by competent legal document professional investigators.

Unlike the records of George W. Bush and John McCain that have been scrutinized to the Nth degree for even the slightest fault or foul up that can be exploited in the press for weeks and months and years past the sort of news cycles we keep hearing referred to.

Barack Obama can end this easily, all he has to do is what the media has asked of his predecessor and his opponent, a full and complete disclosure of his records.

Nothing less is acceptable to us Tin Foil Hat Brigadiers.

[Ann Archy]

AMEN!! Is there not ONE REPORTER who has the COMMON SENSE and INTEREST to ask Obama just WHERE he was born....the HOSPITAL NAME PLEASE!!

[Star Traveler]

You said — “Get creative.”

Ummm..., the “pattern” has already been established to deal with any “creative” plans... :-)

If anyone releases something that purports to be the Obama birth certificate, the State of Hawaii can very officially and assertively say that they have not released it and therefore anything that is “out there” (wherever it is being “exposed”) is *definitely* not an official copy.

The Obama Administration (which it will be by the time anyone “gets creative”) will then say, “It’s obvious that this is a forgery and a fraud since the State of Hawaii has affirmed that they have not released a certified copy and I have not authorized a release of such a document.”

And then, all the Obama bloggers and Obots will go online and drum up how the extreme right wing of the Republican Party is so upset with the legitimate election of the first black man in the White House, that they are resorting to extreme tin-foil-hat measures to try and discredit him.

So, you can actually put out a document that can never be used in a court of law, being that it’s not authorized and it’s not certified and it can be discredited just as easily as this whole issue is discredited right now...

LOL...

There are a lot of people who just don’t know that they are beat by a master liar... :-)

[NOBAMA in 08]

Correction:

HELL F***ING NO!!!!!!!! FORCE THE TRUTH OUT!!!!!

[NOBAMA in 08]

Any further words about Our KENYAN CON-ARTIST FRAUD from Larry Sinclair? or did Larry disappear not exactly unlike the Choir Director? Does Larry feel good about gettin “PLUGS” BIDEN the V.P. Slot via his Illegal Lockup in Delaware by Biden’s son?

[NOBAMA in 08]

There You Go Again, Star Traveler!!

You are trying to get the TRUTH about ZERO!
Why do You always pursue the Impossible!/s/