Posted on 12/08/2008 11:22:28 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild
I just phoned the State of Hawaii Dept. of Health. I told the lady that they had decided for the rest of the states that we are a nation of men, not laws. Hawaii has decided for the rest of us that Obama need not prove that he is an American citizen because Hawaii has sealed his birth records. I pledged to boycott products made in Hawaii and to never set foot in Hawaii. Then I wished her Merry Christmas. Here is the contact info: (808) 586-4400. Kinau Hale, 1250 Punchbowl St., Honolulu, HI 96813 CANCEL YOUR VACATION! HIT THEM IN THE POCKETBOOK!
Never forget who the Supreme Court answers to...
...the people of the United Statest of America.
They don’t care otherwise they would not sealed the BC.
I mean, there are many, MANY jobs that REQUIRE the presentation of a birth certificate to the employer!!! The employer is required to see it (and in many cases), make a copy of it.
Why does the only job that actually requires proof (according to the Constitution),,,,,
NOT require proof?
You said — “PHawaii has decided for the rest of us that Obama need not prove that he is an American citizen because Hawaii has sealed his birth records.”
Well, as I understand it, all the birth records are sealed and are not allowed to the public in Hawaii, except for those specific and stated individuals that the law allows (which are primarily members of the family).
Now, how you expect Hawaii to violate its own laws? And don’t you think that if Hawaii did that (i.e., released information that is illegal for them to release) that they would have a lawsuit on their hands and lose big-time? And don’t you think that Hawaii has been directly warned about that, already by Obama?
So, why do you think writing or calling or saying anything to Hawaii is going to change their laws?
That’s a ridiculous idea...
I don’t see what the Hawaii State Department of Health can do if the law stands as it is written currently. Even if Hawaii were to change its laws, it would only apply to new births.
You said — “I don’t understand why he doesn’t need to make it public.”
Well, I understand very well why he doesn’t release it to the public... he would be shown to be legally ineligible to be President of the United States. It’s really a simply answer to your question... LOL...
First HI is not going to violate their laws. Second the issue you raise is about individual rights, I’d suggest you read up on the concept.
And to the second poster, no the SCOTUS do not answer to us. We try to avoid mob rule here, at least in our party.
They should only be concerned about protecting the US Constitution.
Well...if he’s getting paid from PUBLIC money....and the rest of the PUBLIC employees have to present a birth certificate....then he MUST (I would think) present a birth certificate in order to get paid, get soc sec, etc....I say we start a campaign demanding he NOT get paid if he does NOT present it....
Hummmm, that is a good idea. If they see their income dropping off they will want to know why and how do they stop the drop.
Just one of the changes they were waiting for.
(Wait 'till you see what's next...)
You said — “Never forget who the Supreme Court answers to...
...the people of the United Statest of America.”
—
Well, as I see it, they don’t seem to be answerable to anyone in the United States. They are not answerable to the President of the United States (that’s part of the Constitution). They are not answerable to the Legislative Branch of the United States (that’s in the Constitution) and that means that they are *not answerable to two parts of our elected leadership.
THEREFORE, as I see it, the Supreme Court *is not answerable* to the people of the United States...
What? “Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing’s over until we decide it is!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!
(-Germans? -Forget it, he’s rolling.)
And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the going gets tough...
the tough get going! Who’s with me?
Let’s go! Come on!
Great idea - if you happen to be Japanese.
“Why does the only job that actually requires proof (according to the Constitution),,,,,NOT require proof?”
He’s a lib, a politician, a democrat, a socialist, is in power, has billions of dollars available to back him, has the support of MSM, and he’s black. ...... he’s bulletproof.
I like your spunk! Good for you!
It is so wrong that we are supposed to believe everything is AOK with the BC, when it obviously is NOT OK!
If Zero had a real BC it would originate from Kenya. That real BC has been hidden, lost or destroyed.
The BC “in the vault” in Hawaii would prove nothing as to where Zero was born. Hawaii handed out BCs to any child who had one parent from Hawaii until the year 1973, when they stopped issuing such dubious BCs. They didn’t care where the kid was born, they just rubber stamped the kid a BC from Hawaii. And VOILA! The kid had an American BC!
I only wish I could boycott Hawaii. Alas I had no plans to go there. Staying here in the frozen tundra is my plan, uh, yeah, that’s a bad plan! More snow on the way!
I want to see the BC just as much as anyone.
However, boycotting Hawaii or threatening state employees won’t make any difference.
My wife used to work in the Vital Records (Birth & Death certificates) at the Oklahoma Dept. of Health. It was Oklahoma state law that made it illegal for Vital Records to give out a BC accept to the parent or person themselves. In essence ALL BCs are sealed. I’m certain the law is the same in Hawaii. The BC being “sealed” is meaningless language; except that extra precautions have been placed on it to preclude its being released accidentially. The State of Hawaii, by pre-existing laws cannot release a BC except to parents(all dead) or Obama himself. This “sealing” is just to protect the DOH from being sued by Obama if this BC is released without his approval - which is already the law of the state.
It is extreme to punish a state for following its own laws; which are in place to protect a person’s personal information. BCs are not open records. It takes a court to get access to them without the persons approval.
The only person to blame is Mr. Obama for not releasing the information.
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”
Yessir, those nervous nellies Souter and Ginsberg would have folded like lawn chairs.
I like the cut of his jib. Smithers—who is this hard-charging go-getter Wrotnowski?
No. 08A469 Title: Cort Wrotnowski, Applicant v. Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State Docketed: Lower Ct: Supreme Court of Connecticut Case Nos.: (SC 18264)
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nov 25 2008 Application (08A469) for stay and/or injunction, submitted to Justice Ginsburg.
Nov 26 2008 Application (08A469) denied by Justice Ginsburg.
Nov 29 2008 Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.
Dec 8 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 12, 2008.
Dec 8 2008 Application (08A469) referred to the Court by Justice Scalia.
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