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To: pa mom

That doesn’t coincide with the facts.

Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866, to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county , Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau)

Sun Yat-sen got a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth!


843 posted on 12/08/2008 3:41:26 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

Citation?


873 posted on 12/08/2008 4:45:45 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Sharrukin

Are you citing this to show that it is easy to get a fake Hawaiian Certificate of Birth? His documents were forged by Chinese supporters, right?

My question is: Do you think Obama was born in Kenya and his documents are forged? Or do you think he was born in Hawaii but is ineligible because of his adoptive father’s nationality? Or something else?

My main frustration with this whole thing is that there seem to be several competing theories, each contradicting the other and some folks are throwing out bits of all of them as arguments. I certainly can buy the frustration with not having the vault certificate. But we run the risk of accepting things out of sheer hope, not strong facts.

So then the response becomes, “release it”. I agree, but no court has compelled it. There is not stipulation in the Constitution as to manner of proof of natural birth, so he is not compelled under it. I believe he has an ethical obligation, but so what? That and a buck will get you—not much!


885 posted on 12/08/2008 5:10:23 PM PST by pa mom
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