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To: jch10
I have said it before and I'll say it again. "they got their marching orders from the higher ups" We are fooling ourselves if we think we have any control over this country. We are just baggage they brush to the side when it really matters. Sure they make it look like we are going through the motions but we are not important to them. Look at the things that have happened in the past 6 months, who nominated John McCain, we didn't; no one knows anything about Obama and look where they put him; what about the bailouts (yes, the ones without any oversite)and, of course, the ones yet to come. You can't find a handful of people in politics that will discuss illigal immigrants. The list could go on and on.

Know what, we don't have anyone to fight for us, we need a strong leader that is one of the people that are being trampled on.

I am from the old old school and have seen the best this country had to offer. It hurts pretty bad when the Supreme Court can find a way to "not discuss" a subject so important to so many people, especially one where it is so obvious there is a problem (this guy,or someone, spent a ton of money to hide the evidence.)

This country still has a lot of good in it but it will never be enjoyed the way it is going at the present time.

187 posted on 12/08/2008 8:09:37 AM PST by depenzz (Get the most out of life, its not a dress rehearsal)
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To: depenzz

“I have said it before and I’ll say it again. “they got their marching orders from the higher ups” We are fooling ourselves if we think we have any control over this country. We are just baggage they brush to the side when it really matters. Sure they make it look like we are going through the motions but we are not important to them. Look at the things that have happened in the past 6 months, who nominated John McCain, we didn’t; no one knows anything about Obama and look where they put him; what about the bailouts (yes, the ones without any oversite)and, of course, the ones yet to come. You can’t find a handful of people in politics that will discuss illigal immigrants. The list could go on and on.”

You have summed up a number of important overall concepts that I think get lost in daily debate/discussion. My view is that the US (and probably most western european countries though I am not as well informed there) has a ‘managed republican government,’ meaning all major candidates allowed to get much positive coverage are pretty much on the same page on major economic issues (free trade, federal budget, illegal immigration, etc.). The media can demonize and marginalize almost anyway with selected/distorted quotes/depictions of their views, exaggerated scandal-type responses to any gaffes, etc.

If anyone has not caught this concept, the media has the power to destroy ANY candidate if they want to, and to elevate anyone they want as well to top-contender status. It may not be known WHO will win an election, but it is known that whoever actually has a chance of winning will be on team global. I think the obama appeal to so many large interests is that he is expected to be totally manageable - no unilateral US-doing-anything.


209 posted on 12/08/2008 8:18:25 AM PST by WoofDog123
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