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To: dbz77
When a society embraces the killing of the innocent, they go all in.

Thread by dbz77.

Dutch Murder Rate Almost six Times United States'

The Netherlands, like most other European countries, has very strict gun control laws. Nonetheless, the Dutch murder rate is almost six times as great as the United States' overall homicide rate.

> An estimated 5,981 people -- an average of 16 a day -- were killed by their doctors without their consent… And these numbers do not measure > several other groups that are put to death involuntarily: disabled infants, terminally ill children, and mental patients. [Notice that Hitler > began his genocidal programs with these groups, not Jews, Gypsies, or other ethnic minorities.] > …The path to the death culture began when doctors learned to think like accountants. As the cost of socialized medicine in the Netherlands grew, > doctors were lectured about the climbing cost of care. In many hospitals, signs were posted indicating how much old-age treatments cost taxpayers > ("The Dutch Way of Death," By Richard Miniter 04/25/2001 The Wall Street Journal Page A20 ). >

79 posted on 12/15/2008 4:36:04 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII
We cannot afford to give up hope.

Thread by GonzoII.

What Pro-Life Majority?

Think of the 2008 election as Katrina for the pro-life movement. What do you do after a disaster? You see what the damage is, and what your assets are. You marshal your assets to try to rebuild. The Register has listed “we still have a pro-life majority” as a major asset. This prompted readers to ask, “What pro-life majority?” Susan Wills spells out the polling data on abortion, and explains how pro-abortion folks manipulate it in last year’s “The Slippery Art of Abortion Polling.” “Here’s how we know that Roe is not supported by 66% of Americans,” she writes. “Polls with carefully-worded, neutral questions about allowing abortion in identified circumstances show minority and waning support for the policy of Roe. These are better measures of public opinion on whether abortion law should change. An April 2005 poll by the Polling Company inc., offering respondents six choices, found only 10% support for what Roe actually does.” “Similarly, an April 2004 poll by Zogby showed 56% of Americans taking a strongly pro-life position (18% never legal; 15% legal for mother’s life only; 23% legal only for mother’s life/rape/incest). Younger Americans were even more pro-life than older Americans: among 18-29-year-olds, 60% took a pro-life position, including 26% who said ‘never legal.’” See more context in the article. We see hope in those numbers — but only if we work confidently to deepen and broaden our majority. We aren’t a desperate, dying movement. We are a movement that has been winning hearts and minds. There’s no reason to stop now. — Tom Hoopes See the Hope for America Series: 1. The Pro-Life Majority 2. The Marriage Majority 3. The New Springtime of the Faith Article URL: http://ncregister.com/what_pro_life_majority/

80 posted on 12/15/2008 4:39:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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