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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
But Shelby, called it a "bridge loan to nowhere,”

I hope Shelby has to eat his words on this one. It's vital to the health of the country that we have a strong auto industry. The Auto Industry has worked very hard over the past 4-5 to turn things around. They were within site of their goal when hit with the double whammy of a spike in oil/gas prices which crushed their sales and then the financial crisis came right behind this. Very few people are buying cars NOW but eventually the customers will come back. GM and Ford have some really exciting cars out there now and more on the way. If they can make it through the next 18 months they will recover.

That said the UAW must reduce their compensation to competitive levels. There must be something done about the legacy costs. These are burdens that the foreign car manufacturers here to not have.

This Shelby thinks that Alabama is a player in the Auto Industry because there are a couple of foreign Auto Manufacturers there doing low-tech final assembly. Shelby thinks that this is Manufacturing. He's as dumb as a box of rocks on this issue.
22 posted on 12/07/2008 9:46:19 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy
It's vital to the health of the country that we have a strong auto industry

OK, please send me a check out of your bank account because my job, which pays me more than you make, is vital to your health.(I spent more than I make, sorry) Please add as many zeros to the sum as you can./s

What part of socialism is bad, don't you understand?

24 posted on 12/08/2008 1:38:30 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: truthguy
Who is going to buy the damned cars?

I am perfectly happy with my 20 year old BMWs.

If the "Big 3" can find money for their homosexual benefits and pervert social advocacy, why should I have to subsidize them?

The planned obsolescence on the parts for older cars and the unnecessary technical gadgets making service outrageously expensive on newer models is something they incorporated into the design of their product line.

The throw away product line as a business model is coming back to haunt them.

And making things more complicated so the average buyer cannot service the vehicle themselves doesn't help that. Give me another '69 Chevy pick-up I can rebuild in one day or keep your plastic junk...

25 posted on 12/08/2008 1:59:22 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: truthguy

You must be a UAW member. YOu can talk all you want but I won’t buy a car from any company that gets a bailout.


45 posted on 12/08/2008 4:19:02 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: truthguy
It's vital to the health of the country that we have a strong auto industry.

We do, Kia, Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota are in the South thriving.

The Auto Industry has worked very hard over the past 4-5 to turn things around.

No, they haven't.

They were within site of their goal when hit with the double whammy of a spike in oil/gas prices which crushed their sales and then the financial crisis came right behind this.

A crisis created by the very government that thinks it can "solve" it. What the auto execs should tell Congress is get the Hell out of their way and get rid of the corporate taxes, "green" car mandates and CAFE standards.

Very few people are buying cars NOW but eventually the customers will come back.

How are customers going to come back? That $15 billion isn't going to trickle down to the consumer, it's going to line the pockets of UAW thugs and Big 3 auto execs and management.

GM and Ford have some really exciting cars out there now and more on the way. If they can make it through the next 18 months they will recover.

Where? The only good car that's out there is the Chevy Malibu. But GM and Ford are being pressured by the government to make "green" cars that nobody is going to buy. Cars are already the most fuel-efficient in automotive history, and ironically laws here prevent fuel-efficient cars sold in Europe by GM and Ford to not be sold here.

Bottom line: You don't know what you're talking about.

102 posted on 12/08/2008 7:53:50 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: truthguy

Go cry to your union buddies. Shelby is right!


106 posted on 12/08/2008 10:36:41 AM PST by ohioman
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