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To: Sherman Logan
Sherman, you are making it up as you go, without any regard for the facts readily available.

1. His Indonesian school records list him as Barry Soetoro, the adopted son of Indonesia stepfather Lolo Soretoro. It's everywhere, look it up.

2. America does not allow dual citizenship for the office of president either, for obvious reasons of dual loyalties. Do some homework and use your head.

3. He returned to be raised by his grandparents in Hawaii as a citizen of Indonesia, with an Indonesian passport, issued under the name Barry Soetoro. He held and traveled to Pakistan under that passport as late as age 21, while a "foreign" student at Occidental.

4. His posted BC has been reasonable challenged as fraudulent. The burden on proof is upon Obama to prove his legal citizenship, as has been posted on this thread many times already.

Why are you supporting an unconstitutional president-elect and working to silence truth? His Occidental, Columbia and Harvard records, like his so-called birth certificate, remain under lock and key as of this moment. Any guesses why? Call him what you want, but he walks, talks and acts like a duck. In my mind, he's a duck until he proves otherwise.

197 posted on 12/07/2008 2:23:03 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

1. What do Indonesian school records have to do with American citizenship status? Can those records be wrong? Even if they are correct, do they overrule American law?

US law ignores dual citizenship. Whether it exists or not is irrelevant to US citizenship status.

2. Please post case law stating that America does not allow dual citizenship for presidents. I seriously doubt there is any. So what you mean is that you think America shouldn’t allow it. Maybe you’re right, but your personal opinion is not the Law. Yet.

3. Please prove that he used an Indonesian passport. Even if he did, doing so doesn’t remove US citizenship, especially in the case of a minor.

4. I think he should produce his original BC. I suspect there’s something embarassing on there, and that we’ll all be embarassed if and when it comes out. But I greatly doubt it has anything at all to do with his citizenship and therefore his elibigility under the constitution for the office he’s been elected to.


229 posted on 12/07/2008 4:05:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
1. His Indonesian school records list him as Barry Soetoro, the adopted son of Indonesia stepfather Lolo Soretoro. It's everywhere, look it up.

Maybe his step-father thought Barry was an Indonesian citizen. Or, maybe he fibbed on the forms to eliminate red tape. Do you really consider school records to be determinative of citizenship?

2. America does not allow dual citizenship for the office of president either, for obvious reasons of dual loyalties. Do some homework and use your head.

Can you show me where is says that in COTUS, Federal law or case law?

3. He returned to be raised by his grandparents in Hawaii as a citizen of Indonesia, with an Indonesian passport, issued under the name Barry Soetoro. He held and traveled to Pakistan under that passport as late as age 21, while a "foreign" student at Occidental.

How do you know this? What is the source. But, even so, so what?

4. His posted BC has been reasonable challenged as fraudulent. The burden on proof is upon Obama to prove his legal citizenship, as has been posted on this thread many times already.

I think, until someone with legal power compels him to provide proof, he is not going to do anything.

340 posted on 12/08/2008 10:06:16 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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