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Supreme Court to Uphold or Ignore the Constitution?
Capitol Hill ^ | Dec. 7, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 12/07/2008 11:14:58 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

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To: seenenuf

It has nothing to do with the Father or anything like that. I recently move and lost family documents including birth certificates. I put a credit watch on my credit because these documents can be used for illegal purposes. Also, it’s a matter of privacy. As far as I can tell, he has proven he was born in Hawaii which is why focus has shifted to this dual citizenship nonsense. I am against this. Time to acknowledge we lost the presidential election and move on. It would be much more constructive to work on saving the party then this issue.


101 posted on 12/07/2008 12:42:35 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: stockpirate

They are cowards. If I were Rush, Levin, Drudge or Savage I would rather go down swinging.

I mention Leo and Cort a lot because i have a ton of admiration for them, Plains Radio, Dr. Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep and all the other people trying to stand up for the Constitution and against this coup by an agent or illegal.

Maybe I am naive but I have faith in Thomas, Scalia, Alito, Roberts and hopefully Kennedy. If they do not “get” what is going on then they are clueless.


102 posted on 12/07/2008 12:43:17 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: mamelukesabre

He provided a birth certificate...I don’t buy the dual citizenship nonsense. I think it makes us look bad-sore losers


103 posted on 12/07/2008 12:44:10 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
He has provided a ,b>FRAUDULENT</b> copy online. I saw it with my own eyes.

Fixed it fer ya

104 posted on 12/07/2008 12:45:52 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (When homo's can procreate - then they can get married)
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To: bronxboy

No he didn’t. Get a clue. he provided no BC or even a legit COLB.


105 posted on 12/07/2008 12:46:12 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: PISANO
And just how do we know for SURE that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen?

Say the Supreme Court takes the case and defines Natural Born Citizen in a way that includes BO and he is deemed a NBC (if he were proven to actually have been born in Hawaii - he showed his papers). Ok, many of us would disagree with the decision, but at least it would all be out in the open and the Constitution would not have been ignored.

Somehow, I am very doubtful he can provide the proof, but if he can, then he is a legitimate president. Isn't that better than a cloud hanging over his head his entire presidency?

106 posted on 12/07/2008 12:46:25 PM PST by christie
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To: Frantzie
"Read the Constitution. SCOTUS purpose is to check the power and stop abuses by the Legislative and Executive branches of govt."

Some still think Marbury v. Madison was decided incorrectly.

107 posted on 12/07/2008 12:47:36 PM PST by DaGman
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To: bronxboy

You are either an Obot or you sound like one. Take a little time to study Leo’s web site and maybe you will have some idea what is going on.


108 posted on 12/07/2008 12:48:05 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Exactly how can you tell if a birth certificate is a fraud? They all look different. Give me a break.


109 posted on 12/07/2008 12:48:09 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: PlainOleAmerican

110 posted on 12/07/2008 12:48:49 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: bronxboy

I didn’t I’d riot! I said if SCOTUS removes O they will riot.

So let the riots begin.

Patriots don’t riot, we REVOLT. it’s usually referred to as a revolution.

In case you didn’t get the memo our last free election was 2004. If O stays we will not have another free election in our lifetime.


111 posted on 12/07/2008 12:49:15 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: bronxboy

He did not provide a BC or even a legitimate COLB. He provided a shoddy forgery of a COLB. Stop repeating a lit about a BC. Defending the Constitution does not make us sore losers.


112 posted on 12/07/2008 12:49:36 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: editor-surveyor

Sorry, I overstated.

It is not possible for parents to renounce citizenship for a child. It is possible for an older minor to renounce citizenship for himself, under rather strict regulations.

Obama would most definitely not have qualified to do so when he was living in Indonesia. The general minimum age is considered to be 14, not 6 to 10.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

G. IRREVOCABILITY OF RENUNCIATION

... (Section 351(b) of the INA provides that an applicant who renounced his or her U.S. citizenship before the age of eighteen can have that citizenship reinstated if he or she makes that desire known to the Department of State within six months after attaining the age of eighteen.


113 posted on 12/07/2008 12:51:33 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: bronxboy

Gee, Berg has affidavits from his grandmother, step siblings, and the DR that delivered him....All say he was born in Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya.

What benefit would they have in lying about his birth place? OTOH what benefit would BO have in lying about his birth place?


114 posted on 12/07/2008 12:51:52 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Sorry, that dog won’t hunt. I am fawning over our Republic which requires those who support the loser in an election to acknowledge their loss and pledge to help the winner in ways that they can-common ground. The loyal opposition-is not just a phrase, it has real meaning and is very important to this country. I long for another Gingrich...he helped elevate conservatism; We need to educate and influence voters with a modern contract for America based on conservative principles not tilt at windmills with lawsuits about birth certificates.


115 posted on 12/07/2008 12:52:25 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Las Vegas Ron

There is something fishy about it. And it makes me even more want to see obamas true birth certificate. I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I’m really beginning to wonder if there are forces trying to control what I’m thinking about this subject.

I WANT TO SEE THE GODDAM BIRTH CERTIFICATE! the real one. Give me one good reason why barak won’t let me see it. Give me one good reason why rush won’t even talk about it.

I’m through with rush. he’s no longer relevant.


116 posted on 12/07/2008 12:52:32 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Frantzie

Clueless or criminal eh?

I say the court is faced with one of two choices.

If they say O can’t hold office the left riots.

If they say he can even though he is not natural born they are faced with revolution.


117 posted on 12/07/2008 12:52:48 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: bronxboy
He has produced a birth certificate.


118 posted on 12/07/2008 12:53:03 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: bronxboy; Polarik; Calpernia
Polarik, Cal, will you please explain to Bronx how to tell a forgery! Thanks.
119 posted on 12/07/2008 12:55:10 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: bronxboy

Who cares about dual citizenship? I want to see the real birth certificate.


120 posted on 12/07/2008 12:55:28 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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