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Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers
Townhall.com ^ | December 7, 2008 | Ken Connor

Posted on 12/07/2008 5:54:31 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/07/2008 5:54:31 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“what do recent events at a New York state Walmart say about the state of American culture?”

It speaks volumes about “certain” American cultures.


2 posted on 12/07/2008 5:55:54 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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“This tragedy points to the selfishness of the human heart and demonstrates that greed is not confined to the scions of Wall Street.”


3 posted on 12/07/2008 5:57:13 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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There is a common thread that runs through this 1964 case of willful abandonment, the sordid online suicide, and the Walmart trampling: these tragedies occurred

in metropolitan New York.

4 posted on 12/07/2008 5:57:38 AM PST by Bernard
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To: caver
It speaks volumes about “certain” American cultures.

Very perceptive. The multiculturalists are driving and segregating us inexorably into tribes and clans. These folks were behaving tribally. Tribalism's brutality knows few bounds. Thanks, multiculturalists!

5 posted on 12/07/2008 5:59:03 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: caver

“[I]f we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?...”

Spot on!


6 posted on 12/07/2008 5:59:46 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Kaslin

I so glad this was written.

A few weeks ago there was an news report about how people who make millions cheat on their taxes. I turned to my husband and said, “As if people who don’t make millions never do.”

Greed is greed. It happens everywhere. Human nature can be very bad and when we take our accountablity to Our Lord out of it, it changes the dynamic.


7 posted on 12/07/2008 6:01:17 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Bernard

Lets not forget the savage gang rape and beating of the female Central Park jogger years ago and the young couple who were attacked and raped near the Newark airport by illegals “camping” in the bushes. American culture my rear end, the author is talking about the cultures brought here from the 3rd world, Africa, Mexico, et.al.


8 posted on 12/07/2008 6:02:53 AM PST by doosee
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Like the elections, people/sheepel let the MSM play them like fiddles....hype the shopping day - hype the supposed bargans - hype the savings and on and on. The day after Thanksgiving is a day I stay home....with good reason. Going to one of those sales is like throwing yourself in front of an on coming train!


9 posted on 12/07/2008 6:06:40 AM PST by yoe (America First and Foremost!)
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"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been [in] line since yesterday morning'... They kept shopping."

This example here is one reason it breaks my heart to think that we might really need a depression to humble some of the selfishness. I with I had faith that the expectation of the government to take care of them all would vanish, but it won't because no one wants to be seen as a heartless leader. Sometimes you have to tear down a society to fix it.

10 posted on 12/07/2008 6:08:04 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Kaslin
Sadly, this event is not unique. Just a couple of weeks ago, a number of people watched a teenager commit suicide live via webcam. Some, with ghoulish delight, goaded him on as he took a large dose of antidepressants, saying things like "Oh, that's not enough to kill you" and "Go ahead and do it." Only after the young man had been lying on his bed for hours did someone finally contact the police. The anonymity of the internet enabled many of these voyeurs to engage in a perverse form of entertainment. Their "fun" contributed to the death of a young man.

Does this remind anyone of the Roman society? No, it's not a gory as watching lions tear people apart for entertainment, but the wickedness of man is still evident. I think I'm disgusted this morning with my fellow man. This article isn't helping.

11 posted on 12/07/2008 6:09:30 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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Jesus warned us, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21 NIV) Jesus' words were a repudiation of materialism and an exhortation to value those things that endure throughout eternity. In our consumer-driven age, we would do well to heed his words.

As we remove God from American life, the devil steps in to fill the void and the result is what we see on the nightly news and read about in the paper.

12 posted on 12/07/2008 6:10:48 AM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Kaslin
On "Black Friday," two thousand people burst through the doors of a Walmart store in Long Island at five a.m., trampling an employee to death in a mad dash to get to sale items before the person next to them. Signs of America's rampant consumerism have existed for decades, but this tragedy takes the cake.

It's not consumerism. It's mob mentality. These people want to be part of whatever the mob is doing at the time. If the mob is going to protest milk prices, they protest milk prices. If the mob is going to a concert, they go to that concert. If the mob is going to vote for a candidate, they vote for that candidate.

Mob mentality is far more dangerous than consumerism. Just ask the Founders. They feared it and for very good reason.

13 posted on 12/07/2008 6:13:42 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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Wow! You used the term folks!

Al and Jessie want to know who you are!

14 posted on 12/07/2008 6:14:02 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: caver; Migraine; doosee
It speaks volumes about “certain” American cultures.

Spot On, although in some areas I would agree with others that it's a bad combination of marketing hype and Third World attitudes.

I worked at WallyWorld during last year's Black Friday (eastern Nevada). While there were those who camped out starting at midnight, there was no melee, only a bit of a rush as shoppers fanned out. A couple of smart things management did, and perhaps the NY store did the same, was to have sheets with the locations of specific sale items clearly marked, and the area taped off before hand so there were no line jumpers. Hectic, yes; bargains, yes; but I was surprised that there was no shoving and in fact, apologies when you were bumped and "thank yous" when you gave info about some sale item.

15 posted on 12/07/2008 6:19:16 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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What does it say about American culture? Nothing.

It says people in crowds submit to a "crowd mind." Always have and always will. It's a documented phenomena as old as civilization.

16 posted on 12/07/2008 6:28:06 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (making full use of an unfair advantage in the marketplace of ideas)
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To: Dahoser
It's not consumerism. It's mob mentality.

Thank you.

In fact, we have another example in the media.

Once there were only three sources (networks) spouting off nonsense. Now, thanks to the internet, there are countless ones, all echoing and feeding back nonsense. Can't count how many dirges on "American consumerism" I've heard in the past couple of weeks.

We should be appalled at the right things. Things like mob mentality, whether it's WalMart, or in the New Media.

17 posted on 12/07/2008 6:31:37 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (making full use of an unfair advantage in the marketplace of ideas)
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A good question is how will Wal-Mart continue to stock its shelves?

Worldwide shipping, according to the reliable Baltic Dry Index, essentially tracks the cost of cargo ship rental. For this reason, it is a great way to track international trade. In just a few months, it has dropped 93%, indicating that international trade in everything but oil has come to a screeching halt.

That is, when shipping was at its peak, the cost of renting a standard cargo ship was about $450,000/day. Now it is down to $6,300/day. At that price, it is not worth the depreciation to even rent the ship, so ports are full of idle ships.


18 posted on 12/07/2008 7:00:53 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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What does it say about American culture?

Zero.

Let's not include half the normal citizens in the population with the animals. The Bell Curve answers all culture questions.

19 posted on 12/07/2008 7:10:38 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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There is no people more susceptible to cultural suicide that those infected with terminal liberalism.

If one achieves, either economically or morally, he is preyed upon by government. Mediocrity is the lesson in schools. Heroes take the shape of Hollywood activists. And the foundation of morality, the churches of the nation, are systematically dismantled.

It is a testament to the power of the system our founding fathers established that we have lasted as long as we have.

20 posted on 12/07/2008 7:15:35 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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