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To: Political Junkie Too; Red Steel; exhaustedmomma
If those questions were not addressed before the election, then too bad. You can blame the MSM/Democrats/courts all you want, but the fact is, this was a battle and the people questioning Obama's citizenship lost. It's over. Seriously, think it through and imagine under what scenario Obama could actually be thrown out of office. When the stakes are this high, the truth gets thoroughly muddled. What piece of evidence could unambiguously prove, to all sides, that Obama was not born in the US? I can't think of any.

And if there is, and you succeed in overturning the election, think about the consequences down the line. Now there is a precedent that all American elections are subject to judicial review. It's giving the judicial branch a *lot* more power than before - are you sure you want this??
507 posted on 12/07/2008 12:08:38 PM PST by billybudd
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To: billybudd

No , it’s not over, and it won’t be over until Obama comes clean. It will go on and on and on....


510 posted on 12/07/2008 12:12:56 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: billybudd
Did you see any of my earlier posts? Why does the Constitution have a process for a president-elect who fails to qualify? What could the authors of Amendment XX been thinking, since a president-elect who fails to qualify is obviously a situation that occurs after the election?

-PJ

516 posted on 12/07/2008 12:22:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: billybudd

bttt


520 posted on 12/07/2008 12:30:17 PM PST by Matchett-PI (WSJ - Advocate of regular enemas and happy thoughts blames America for Mumbai massacre. (Deepak))
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To: billybudd

If those questions were not addressed before the election, then too bad. You can blame the MSM/Democrats/courts all you want, but the fact is, this was a battle and the people questioning Obama’s citizenship lost. It’s over. Seriously, think it through and imagine under what scenario Obama could actually be thrown out of office. When the stakes are this high, the truth gets thoroughly muddled. What piece of evidence could unambiguously prove, to all sides, that Obama was not born in the US? I can’t think of any.

And if there is, and you succeed in overturning the election, think about the consequences down the line. Now there is a precedent that all American elections are subject to judicial review. It’s giving the judicial branch a *lot* more power than before - are you sure you want this??

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To a certain extent - elections ARE ALREADY subject to judicial review ... just ask Al Franken.

And that is how it should be ...

SCOTUS has already ruled in paraphrased language:

When a State invests individual citizens with the right to vote for Presidential Electors, then that right is inviolate ... it is fundamental ...

If election irregularities are found out after the fact, they STILL need to be remedied ...

BTW:

Berg AND Donofrio sought to have the election stayed BEFORE election day and were shot down in lower courts ...


626 posted on 12/07/2008 6:20:33 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: billybudd

You opined, “What piece of evidence could unambiguously prove, to all sides, that Obama was not born in the US? I can’t think of any.” That really is not the point of the lesson. Obama was born with dual citizenship, according to his assertion (we don’t know for sure that he was actaully born in HI). That is divided loyalty like the framers were seeking to avoid in a president. Then add to that the fact that he may well have gamed the entry system for college, claiming foreign student status which would further evidence divide3d loyalties and acquiring college funding via a similar gaming, and possibly even holding a passport based upon another nationality calimed, and you have sufficient proof. BUT the little lying squirrel has hired an army of expensive law firms to hide ALL deocuments whioch expose his history and he refuses to release these as well as his vault copy BC. Do you really want that kind of president? Do you really want to allow a man to so spit ont he Constitution?


628 posted on 12/07/2008 6:27:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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