David Horowitz: Obama Derangement Syndrome- Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Cert.

HNN ^ | 12/6/08 | David Horowitz

[EternalVigilance]

So you’re Sarah Palin’s spokeman now too? Wow.

[Alia]

You know.. a simple “I don’t think so” would have been more than adequate a response to that or whom you disagree. Calling someone Tokyo Rose, directly and in post, crosses the line of civility in argumentation.

[x]

Okay, thanks for the follow up.

Some of our other Presidents also had parents who may have qualified as British citizens. The last I believe was Woodrow Wilson, whose mother was born in England.

[Alia]

You did skew his post to serve your purpose.

[STE=Q]

“Obama Derangement Syndrome - Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Cert.”

TRANSLATION:

AMERICANS Need to Shut Up About the Birth Certificate!

To Horowitz it’s just another ‘political’ question ... who cares about all the AMERICANS that voted for this impostor — under fraudulent circumstances!

Then he lectures us on American ‘unity.’

The Constitution is the wellspring of American ‘unity.’

The Constitution is not a political play-toy as Mr. Horowitz would have us believe (because a few people exercise their constitutional 1st amendment rights in front of the Supreme Court)but the very fabric that holds our country together — lest we fall apart!

Those people in front of the Courthouse are fighting for our Constitution... They are fighting for the ‘unity’ that the Constitution — our guiding document — provides.

The Constitution says what it says.

If Obama is not a ‘natural born’ citizen (we don’t even know if he is a citizen)he CANNOT be President of the United States.

E pluribus unum...

... Out of Many, One!

STE=Q

[EternalVigilance]

No I didn’t.

[Alia]

Riiight. And no one ever uses Rush’s stuff for their own ends and purposes.

[norge]

“factcheck” is a good old journalistic phrase...but I’m sure you knew that.

The issue is that “three law firms” and “spent millions of dollars on lawyers” has been tossed about several times on this and other threads.

I have asked (third time now) for corroboration, and the only response I received was from EV who cited Sandler, Reiff and Young.

I checked it out, and so far, I have detemined only that Sandler works for the DNC, and their proper role would be to represent the Party, and therefore the Pres-elect, in the cases brought before the various courts and states.

I have yet to see anything at all that indicates Obama or his representatives have indeed hired three law firms or lawyers or spent millions of dollars fighting these issues.

I will follow up on the further reference you gave me, EV.
Thanks

[jla]

OK, but only because I like your username, sweet & airy. (unless you’re a guy then forget I posted this)

[Alia]

Could it be... that you are so on about this issue that you didn’t pause to consider the person you were responding to would rather be treated as an individual person rather than a captive audience for your performance/activism?

[EternalVigilance]

Perhaps they shouldn’ have started their part in the conversation by duplicating the spirit of Horowitz’s vicious ad hominem attacks on good people who want nothing more than the truth to be known and the Constitution to survive in a way that actually means something.

[DaveTesla]

Being told to give up on the constitution and hand over the republic to a bunch of Chicago thugs is where the incivility
started.

If you folks are so against Mr. Obama showing proof he qualifies please explain to Me why.

And please explain why the Constitution should be discarded.

[rodguy911]

You make excellent points and in a perfect world we really should do most of what you said in your post and document everything we say(which we often do here on FR)beyond a reasonable doubt.

However, we are in an imperfect world and in a situation where everything about this candidate from the day of his birth to where he went to college,whom he spent time with, his friends etc., to who his parents really are has been carefully hidden or astroturfed so well we can't find a dam thing out about him.

This situation is unlike any other potus ever. It is extraordinary.

So what do you suggest in a situation like this?

Is compelling a potential potus to come up with a modicum of documentation above and beyond the expected in this situation.

[Alia]

;>

I like sound argumentation.

[norge]

Can’t argue with you on this point.

[Political Junkie Too]

It's a non-binding resolution meant to share the opinion of the Senate with the other chamber and branches of government. It has no force of law. it does not go to the President for signature.

-PJ

[seekthetruth]

According to Donofrio, if Obama was born in Hawaii or anywhere in Us he is a citizen but not a “natural born” citizen due to his father not be a citizen. Donofrio is taking Obama’s own words that he was born in Hawaii and a British subject at birth due to his father being from Kenya. Donofrio is not asking for ANY birth certificate to be released. He is going on Obama’s own statements from his web site, “fight the smears”.

If Obama was born in Kenya (not proven) he is obviously not a “natural born” citizen. I believe the Keyes case does ask for it to be released, and the Berg case did.

[Red Steel]

I checked it out, and so far, I have detemined only that Sandler works for the DNC, and their proper role would be to represent the Party, and therefore the Pres-elect, in the cases brought before the various courts and states.

Yes, probably the DNC hired lawyers to represent Obama.

I'm going to do more checking on this.

[rodguy911]

Thanks very much. I goggled it but didn’t come up with too much.

[seekthetruth]

Read here about Woodrow Wilson. Leo discusses on his web site all the Presidents who were questioned about their Constitutional requirements as to being “natural born” citizens. Great research!
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/