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To: GonzoII; SolidWood

We had Iraq under partial siege. We should have maintained that strategy, while using more overwhelming power in Afghanistan and capturing Bin Laden.


15 posted on 12/06/2008 9:15:17 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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16 posted on 12/06/2008 9:50:55 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
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It's true. We could have continued to ‘contain Saddam’ with the UN Sanctions that were starving millions of Arabs to death but that would inspired yet more terrorists to attack America like they did on 9-11.
17 posted on 12/06/2008 9:55:05 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Impeach Chimpy Hussein.)
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Anyone who thinks the war was run properly is a sycophant. I supported the war from the beginning. In fact, I joined the Army specifically because I supported the war. But I cannot say with a straight face that the war was conducted properly.

If Americans actually understood how politically correct the Army has become they would be outraged. The Army spends FAR more training on sexual harrassment than on combatives. Equal Opportunity and environmental impact training are more common than marksmanship.

At the advent of WWII a huge % of field officers were either fired or forced into retirement. The entire Army was recreated for the sole purpose of winning the new war. Between Vietnam and 911 we had a quarter century of garrison/"Cold War". Everyone in the upper echelon is either 1st or 2nd generation garrison leaders. They care more about appearance than effectiveness, not entirely out of fault but its just been that way for so long. Just now things are slowly beginning to change. We are starting to get the first round of Sr.NCOs and Maj/LtCols who were born and bred on WoT, but their power to change is still minimal. Not to mention even with their WoT experience, they were all trained by garrison leaders.

Don't get me wrong, we have a kickass Army. But to think the leadership infallible is moronic at best. And the operating tempo of the entire war has been influenced by the far left.

18 posted on 12/06/2008 9:56:56 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: Moonman62
“We had Iraq under partial siege. We should have maintained that strategy, while using more overwhelming power in Afghanistan and capturing Bin Laden.”

I respect your opinion, but considering all the successes in the WOT, looking back, how important has he really been,
in the long run?

22 posted on 12/06/2008 11:16:59 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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