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Supreme Court mum on Obama-birth case [Decision due out on Monday]
Chicago Tribune ^ | Frank James

Posted on 12/05/2008 3:03:51 PM PST by Zakeet

No announcement today from the Supreme Court about whether it will hear what I call the Obama-isn't-a-natural-born-citizen-so-he-can't-be-president lawsuit, officially known as Donofrio v. Wells.

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Donofrio wasn't announced as one of the two cases the court decided to take. Scotusblog has details on the cases.

I'm told by a Supreme Court watcher that the lack of an announcement doesn't mean the court definitely won't hear Donofrio although he thinks it's safe to say its unlikely the court won't hear the case. The full orders aren't due until Monday.

So we'll just have to stay tuned.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berthcertificate; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; donofriovwells; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; robertscourt; supremecourt; whoisobama
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 3:03:51 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

When the Supreme Court grants cert. (i.e., decides that they will hear a case), they release that order immediately, because the parties to the case need to start working on their briefs. If the Court denies cert. (decides that they will not hear the case), those orders are not released until the following Monday (because there are so many of them and the clerk’s office needs time to put together the full list).

Today’s order list grants cert. in two cases, neither one of them the Obama eligibility case. We won’t know for sure until the Monday order list comes out it the cases were denied (it’s possible they postponed consideration to a later conference, though I think that’s unlikely), or if anyone dissented from the denial, but if I had to bet, I would say that the Court will simply decline to hear these cases— and any others that come up— unanimously, and without any comment.


2 posted on 12/05/2008 3:06:40 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Zakeet
it's safe to say [it's] unlikely the court won't hear the case.

Is that a typo? As written, it means it's likely the Court will hear the case.

3 posted on 12/05/2008 3:07:01 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Zakeet

The Supreme Court is a bunch of wimps when it comes to this Constitutional issue. They won’t do anything with it...


4 posted on 12/05/2008 3:07:56 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Zakeet

“the lack of an announcement doesn’t mean the court definitely won’t hear Donofrio although he thinks it’s safe to say its unlikely the court won’t hear the case”

If a double negative is a positive, what does the quintuple negative of lack-doesn’t-won’t-unlikely-won’t mean?

Clear as mud to me! Good writing!


5 posted on 12/05/2008 3:09:07 PM PST by rusty millet
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To: Zakeet

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=FJames/gender=m/Frank-James.htm


6 posted on 12/05/2008 3:10:15 PM PST by jas3
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To: Zakeet

Expect it to be one of many cases on Monday where cert is denied without comment. It’s going nowhere.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 3:10:33 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: Zakeet

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=FJames/gender=m/Frank-James.htm


8 posted on 12/05/2008 3:11:19 PM PST by jas3
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To: Lurking Libertarian

There’s no doubt that if the supreme court doesn’t hear the case the FReeper naysayers will run out to tell everyone to forget about it like good little Obamaroids. What they won’t mention is the other 15 or so odd cases that are in the works.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 3:11:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

You’ve got that right!


10 posted on 12/05/2008 3:14:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: cripplecreek
What they won’t mention is the other 15 or so odd cases that are in the works

...none of which will go anywhere, either. And I speak not as an "Obamaroid," but as an appellate lawyer. These cases will all be dismissed for lack of standing and/or justiciability, and no appellate court will touch them. Same thing that happened with all the hundreds of cases which challenged the constitutionality of the Vietnam War back in the 1970s.

11 posted on 12/05/2008 3:16:18 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Zakeet

Oh, goodie !!

Can we start posting : “The-fix-was-in” entries yet ???

I mean: it’s gotta be a HUGE conspiracy, right ? They even reached back in time to post a birth notice in a Hawaii newspaper , and got the Republican Governor to say the state seal on the document was valid, and and....

I can’t go on !


12 posted on 12/05/2008 3:16:44 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey

Did the birth notice state where he was born?


13 posted on 12/05/2008 3:18:14 PM PST by nobama08
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Like I said, “like good little Obamaroids”.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 3:18:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Zakeet

It’s like we’ve morphed into some Bizarro USA, in which the legal backbone of our country isn’t important, in which there cannot be found one person of power willing to stand against political correctness just long enough to be sure we’re not handing over control of the country to a FOREIGNER. No one seems to have “standing” to challenge who can ascend to the presidency. I’m perplexed to the Nth.

MM


15 posted on 12/05/2008 3:19:22 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Lurking Libertarian

...These cases will all be dismissed for lack of standing ...

Who would have “standing” in a case like this? Could it be an Elector from the college, McCain, a Senator or Congressmen? Just curious.


16 posted on 12/05/2008 3:19:36 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Repeal 16-17
Though tortured by double negatives, I think he says it twice.

I'm told by a Supreme Court watcher that the lack of an announcement doesn't mean the court definitely won't hear Donofrio although he thinks it's safe to say its unlikely the court won't hear the case.

17 posted on 12/05/2008 3:19:40 PM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: cripplecreek
What they won’t mention is the other 15 or so odd cases that are in the works.

The only point that some of us are making is that, realistically, the odds are pretty slim that the SC is going to hear any of them. Pretty sickening state of affairs.

Now, I would like it if there is a FReeper that is versed enough in the law (and has the time) to list the pending cases and give a synopsis of the basis of the legal arguments being made for each. And maybe the strength of each case.

18 posted on 12/05/2008 3:20:26 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: cripplecreek

Is an Obamaroid like a Hemroid?


19 posted on 12/05/2008 3:22:20 PM PST by scfischer7
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To: Big_Monkey
Who would have “standing” in a case like this?

Under the current plan, I think the answer is "nobody." Just a case that is not allowed.

20 posted on 12/05/2008 3:25:09 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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