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To: Vendome

I doubt he claimed to be a foreign national for these.

I also think the “born in Kenya” thing is extremely unlikely, in spite of Kenyan tales. And even so, its a slam-dunk that courts would say that “natural born” NOW means born to a US citizen anywhere. Certainly the Supreme Court wouldn’t flinch from adopting that definition. The identity and citizenship of his mother is not in dispute, and he has acted as and been treated as a citizen for 40+ years, so such issues would be seen by nearly everyone (and most courts) as pettifogging.

There is something else hidden there, in the birth certificate and elsewhere, and this controversy was originally an attempt to flush it out.


58 posted on 12/05/2008 11:35:54 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

“its a slam-dunk that courts would say that “natural born” NOW means born to a US citizen anywhere. “

It depends if they rule on original intent or living document standards.


68 posted on 12/05/2008 12:02:10 PM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: buwaya

Why then was he dormed with foreign nationals in college. The practice then and now is to place students with cultural peers to ease their ability to communicate and socialize.

The court cannot make a feel good interpretation of born to a US citizen anywhere. The Constitution is breif and explicit in the requirements.

Acting like a citizen for 40 years does qualify one as a citizen. If you are here illegally then you have comitted multiple felonious frauds in those 40 years. And, I don’t care if you are from Ireland, England or any other blue eyed country and here illegally.

He has at least three BC’s

1. His original BC before adoption, that was sealed upon his adoption.

2. His new adopted identity BC with his Stepfather.

3. His new change of name identity BC or one from another country.


75 posted on 12/05/2008 1:10:10 PM PST by Vendome
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