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To: Centurion2000
To: etraveler13 Read how it works, the only other person running for PRESIDENT at the time, was John McCain...Period. Not true. The democratic slate of electors would be able to vote for whomever they wanted. There is NOTHING that stops an elector for changing their vote in the electoral college. That's why they are always the staunchest party loyals that are chosen for it.

This is where I get confused. I live in a state that has 2 electoral votes. My state is fully democratic. Now we have 2 democrat electors and 2 republican electors which gives you 4. If BO won, then those 2 electors get to vote.

Now here's the question - he fraudulently ran - he was and is not eligible to run - right? SO, why would the democratic electors get to vote? Wouldn't all 4 get to vote since he is ineligible? Please answer that!
288 posted on 12/05/2008 10:15:54 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm
My post was confusing.
2 democrat electors
2 republican electors

BO wins the state which means 2 democrat electors get to vote.
Bo is a fraud and ineligible to run.

Why would you allow those 2 democratic electors vote? Why would you not allow the republican electors vote?
297 posted on 12/05/2008 10:19:43 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm
Now here's the question - he fraudulently ran - he was and is not eligible to run - right? SO, why would the democratic electors get to vote? Wouldn't all 4 get to vote since he is ineligible? Please answer that!

Because according to state laws, the party that wins the popular statewide vote gets to seat their electors in the Electoral college. Now it has happened where both parties attempted to seat their electors in the electoral college and states returned conflicting results. That led to the Compromise of 1877 (google it, interesting story).

305 posted on 12/05/2008 10:22:25 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: jcsjcm

Must electors vote for the candidate who won their State’s popular vote?

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories—electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

Which States bind electors to popular vote results? Refer to Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges to find out.

The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties’ nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called “faithless electors” may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.

Today, it is rare for electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party’s candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of electors have voted as pledged.


308 posted on 12/05/2008 10:22:44 AM PST by etraveler13
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To: jcsjcm

Well the legalese question is, is illegal to [i]run[/i] or is it illegal to [i]serve[/i]?


317 posted on 12/05/2008 10:27:10 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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