[EasySt]

"Okay, then we're talking about the state having the responsibility for and authority over a fetus from the time of conception as they do over any other child in their jurisdiction."

Hold on just a second. In America, the state is responsible *TO* the people, not *for* the people. The people have authority *OVER* the state, not the other way around.

Conservatives resist attempts to reverse this.

[tacticalogic]

Hold on just a second. In America, the state is responsible *TO* the people, not *for* the people. The people have authority *OVER* the state, not the other way around.

I understand that. I also know that all too often this gets turned upsided down by the bureaucrats and politicians and you have to be careful exactly how you make the law or you can end up handing them authority they were never inteded to have. Once they have it they are loathe to give it up.