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To: ReignOfError
Obama's mother could not renounce his U.S. citizenship on his behalf. Renunciation has to be the voluntary action of an adult.

That statement is false. Around the world, parent can and do, quite frequently, emigrate to other countries. Many of them then apply for the citizenship of those other countries. Many of those countries require the renunciation of one's previous citizenship before they confer the new citizenship. Quite often (it may even be a requirement in some countries,) that new citizenship is simultaneously bestowed upon the children.

The U.S. requires immigrants applying for naturalization to renounce their previous citizenship. Customarily, parents seeking naturalization also renounce, on behalf of their children, their children's previous citizenship.

Are you saying that Indonesia wouldn't require (or even allow) the same?

Regards,

91 posted on 12/04/2008 3:27:09 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
The U.S. requires immigrants applying for naturalization to renounce their previous citizenship. Customarily, parents seeking naturalization also renounce, on behalf of their children, their children's previous citizenship.

Are you saying that Indonesia wouldn't require (or even allow) the same?

I'm saying that Indonesian law is irrelevant to the question of U.S. citizenship. From the U.S. State Department:

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

173 posted on 12/04/2008 6:08:08 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: alexander_busek
That statement is false. Around the world, parent can and do, quite frequently, emigrate to other countries. Many of them then apply for the citizenship of those other countries. Many of those countries require the renunciation of one's previous citizenship before they confer the new citizenship.

Which is completely irrelevant under US law. A parent cannot renounce their minor child's US citizenship under US law.

The U.S. requires immigrants applying for naturalization to renounce their previous citizenship.

No, it doesn't. I became a naturalized US citizen in 2007. I still remain a citizen of 2 other countries, which is perfectly legal under US law.

215 posted on 12/04/2008 7:17:45 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: alexander_busek

...The U.S. requires immigrants applying for naturalization to renounce their previous citizenship..

This is just not factual accurate. The US does not require that immigrants renounce their previous citizenship. There are tens of millions of legal Americans holding dual-citizenship (my own mother included) for this very reason. The US doesn’t encourage it, but does not in any way, forbid it.

Sorry!


314 posted on 12/04/2008 11:22:05 AM PST by Big_Monkey
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