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To: BP2
"AH, well, what part of the law says that Dual Citizenship, which is not currently recognized by the US, is 'OKAY'? "

This might help you. Also, Perkins V. Elg.

"And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized, dwelling within the United States, and being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization, and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States. Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend on persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States."

"...born...citizens...". Having that attribute or quality from birth. Now, looking that up in my magic reverse dictionary: ah! 'natural born citizen'

830 posted on 12/06/2008 7:05:39 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel

So, calenel ...

- after all of your grand-standing, quoting Acts and Rulings that deal with naturalization, and such phrases as "born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States," seemingly ACKNOWLEDGING that Obama was born OUTSIDE of the US...

- hanging your hat on phrases like "is declared to be a citizen of the United States," VS something with TEETH, like "is declared to be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States" -- which we NEED, but which doesn't exist ...

- referencing your primary arguments from the 14th Amendment which was ratified by LESS than 3/5 of the 37 State Legislatures at the time it was codified, instead of 3/4 of the states as REQUIRED by the Constitution (now that's a completely different discussion there) ...

- ignoring the British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): "Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth"...

- intermingling "Jus soli" variations of "Citizen," "Native Born Citizen," "Natural Born Citizen," "Citizen by Birth," etc, while picking "Jus sanguinis" parts of Acts that clearly state things like: "provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend on persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States." Pulling parts from different Act from different eras...

- blowing off State Dept's FAMs, saying they're "just a Manual," even though they use strong legal references to carry out the nation's Constitutional and Statutory Immigration actions. People are denied or granted citizenship based upon the FAM's EVERYDAY.

- minimizing that Congress has tried to change the NBC issues of Article Two 26 times in the past 140 years, and never getting it out of Committee...

- knowing that before Chester Arthur, who almost surely & fraudulently hid his dual citizenship status while he was VP, the last "foreign born" President and VP help office more than 170 years ago....

- shooting down historical works our forefathers, like Vattel and Blackston, would have certainly used in their law practice and/or as reference to construct wording for the Constitution ... the SAME references that Justice Thomas uses to help interpret the Framer's actions...

... and then to top it off, the LEGAL Reference YOU use to define "natural born citizen" is Dictionary.com

LOL!


848 posted on 12/06/2008 11:27:56 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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