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To: BP2

I don’t think you ever responded to my earlier question of a specific reference for the change in the definition of ‘natural born’ from that found in the dictionary: ‘having an attribute or quality from birth’. Do you have one?


639 posted on 12/05/2008 4:20:37 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel; montesquiue; Non-Sequitur; flaglady47; Newtiebacker; GBA; so_real; Publius Valerius; ...

I don’t think you ever responded to my earlier question of a specific reference for the change in the definition of ‘natural born’ from that found in the dictionary: ‘having an attribute or quality from birth’. Do you have one?

Yep ...

The following reference is by Emer de Vattel (April 25, 1714 - December 28, 1767). He was a Swiss philosopher, diplomat, and legal expert whose theories laid the foundation of modern international law and political philosophy. He is most famous for his 1758 work, "The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law Applied to the Conduct and to the Affairs of Nations and of Sovereigns." This work was his claim to fame and won him enough prestige to be appointed as a councilor to the court of King Augustus III of Saxony.

From p. 183 of "The Law of Nations":

NOTE the words "born", "parents" and "citizens".

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Now here's a copy of the famous letter from John Jay to George Washington during the Constitutional Convention where he suggests the President be a natural born Citizen.

Notice how John Jay has Underlined the word "born". On the Constitutional drafts, he underlines born" in nearly all instances.

And now, my standard disclaimer to all of the new TROLLs around here: Welcome to FR. Now read, and learn. You have much to learn. Facts are about to become part of your world. That will be uncomfortable at first. Maybe even painful, depending on how tightly you cling to your delusions.


678 posted on 12/05/2008 11:44:07 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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