Thomas Breaks Tradition: Forces Supreme Court to Look at Obama Citizenship Case

THE AFRO-AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS ^ | 12/3/08 | James Wright, AFRO Staff Reporter

[calenel]

"Additionally, going back to the established means in effect in the Founders’ day, a person received their name and rights through their father. But you want to ignore that, apparently. It does however aid in understanding why a natural born must have a United States citizen father, to avoid exactly what Obama has admitted to, citizenship under the Crown at birth thus subject to/of the crown."

Which is what the [deprecated] 1790 statute addressed. All of the FFs were British citizens until at least the War of 1812 as far as the Crown was concerned, however, in the words of Ruby Rod: "But who cares?"

[calenel]

"Tublecane, I was trying to responded to your question, while responding to calenel's question: ' ... definition of ‘natural born’ from that found in the dictionary: ‘having an attribute or quality from birth’. Do you have one?"

Actually, you didn't show a difference. You only illustrated a [deprecated - this is a fun word] definition of patriarchal hereditary citizenship. Which wasn't my question. Because to have that form of 'natural born' citizenship, you would still have to 'have it from birth'.

[calenel]

"So Obama is saying that he himself is a better legal thinker than a Supreme Court justice?"

I might make that trade. Obama can sit on the SCOTUS and Thomas can be POTUS. I think who gets to appoint the next few Justices is a lot more important than who is currently on the SC. We may have four or more departing this term.

[ExTexasRedhead]

I want to know why Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Hedgecock and the rest haven’t pushed this issue????

Are there no spine and guts left in this country even to save it???

[Helen]

I don’t know for a fact, of course, but it seems logical to me that they stayed out of it in an effort to force the MSM to report it, thereby keeping it from being a “right-wing” issue. This is as much a battle between the new media and the old media as it is a battle between socialism and capitalism, and between red states and blue cities.

[calenel]

"They are right, you are wrong."

Prove it. I already illustrated many of the flaws in his arguments at the link in the post to which you gave your oh-so-profound reply. If you can't provide more than 'they are right, you are wrong' then don't bother at all.

[Albion Wilde]

Obama’s mother was under 21 when he was born and his father was not a US citizen. That’s why he’s not a natural born citizen.

Berg's compelling theory is that Obama was actually born in Kenya, then flown to Hawaii to be registered four days later, and even later was adopted by Soetero and given Indonesian citizenship, nullifying his previous British Kenyan status. The guy needs to produce his documents. But he won't. Where money is, however, the truth will out, and eventually someone will pay enough money to pry his documents loose. Then the excrement will hit the fan, and it will all be.... Bush's fault.

[MHGinTN]

Right, the Republic is no more. Mob vote now runs the elections and folks like you feed the demise. Obama’s history doesn’t mean a thing. He got the most votes, legal or fraudulent, thus he is the new leader.

[Albion Wilde]

When they examine his BC, if they find it is not valid, Thomas will be screwed for the rest of his life. He will be seen as a traitor to his race.

News flash: he already is. Books have already been written about blacks' repudiation of Clarence Thomas (see Sellout: The Politics of Racial Betrayal by Harvard professor Randall Kennedy, for one). He has nothing to lose among blacks.

[Albion Wilde]

Father-God, be with the judges of the Supreme Court as they hear this case. I pray that the truth will come to light. That America will wake from her slumber. That we will turn from our current course of being led silently like a lamb to slaughter. Please, God, deliver us from evil men!!! Set our feet on the firm foundation of truth. The foundation that our founding fathers envisioned. A life of liberty and justice for all people... that all men are created equal ...that we are endowed by you, our Creator, with certain unalienable rights ...that we be free and independent states ...of a government, for and by the people
Father, you have blessed this nation greatly and at this moment we are being tested. I ask for your divine providence to guide us through the dark days ahead. God forgive us for all the ways we fail you. We thank you for the many answers to prayer. No matter what the outcome, we know that your Truth and Love will always prevail. A-men.

And again I say, Amen!

[Albion Wilde]

Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Great tagline!!

[rodguy911]

Great question! I would like to know as well. It's sad when lower league radio people have to ring the bell for the big guys who should know better and have the guts to cover news.

Ignoring those of us in the blogosphere who have worked so very hard on this issue is a direct slap in the face and I for one don't like it.

Just another case of the pretty girl forgetting who brought her to the ball ala FNC.

[rodguy911]

Sorry but I am not buying that one. When MSLSD posted what they did on their site it was more than enough reason for the heavy talk hitters to do their job.

[Albion Wilde]

...The author made an effort to report the facts and keep personal bias out. I appreciate that — so many these days are tragically incapable of keeping themselves out of the articles. However, as you mentioned, once again the distinction between “citizen” and “natural born” citizen is glossed over by the Obama advocates. That makes me mad. They are word-playing and they know it. It is deceptive and irresponsible.

I have yet to see one of these "objective" articles say that Obama "claims" to have been born in Hawaii, or "claims" to be a Christian. They all state it as gospel that is "was" born in Hawaii or "is" a Christian, when in fact, no one knows. However, by his actions he has made it manifestly suspect that he is neither a natural-born citizen nor a born-again Christian.

[Iowan]

Many Thanks, BonRad.

Ping!

[rodguy911]

The guy needs to produce his documents but he wont...

Excellent post.

This is the bottom line,in many cases we are forced to run with opinions, innuendo,partial stories of what can and cant be documented all because the arrogant SOB won't produce the real documents!!

Another rumor is that there is little if any documentation of Obamaba's father ever living with Dunham and it's very possible that his name may or may not be on the BC.

[Helen]

Yep. You probably shouldn’t buy that one; I’m just trying to find some logic. Hannity is the one who really surprises me. Even though he mentioned it, he got it wrong.

[Albion Wilde]

Thomas isn't "achieving" equality; he is equal.

Not just equal; he has earned a certain well-deserved superiority.

[Windflier]

Great tagline!

Thanks. I stole it before Rush did.

[Albion Wilde]

“For nothing is hidden that shall not become evident, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.”
--Mark 8:17