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Pentagon sources: Former Pakistan army officials trained Mumbai attackers: NYT
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/E...ow/3790889.cms ^

Posted on 12/03/2008 8:16:59 PM PST by jhpigott

Former Pakistan army officials trained Mumbai attackers: NYT 4 Dec 2008, 0911 hrs IST, IANS

NEW YORK: Former Pakistani army officials trained the terrorists who went on rampage last week in Mumbai, The New York Times said on Wednesday quoting unnamed Pentagon officials.

"A former Defense Department official said on Wednesday that American intelligence agencies had determined that former officers from Pakistan's Army and its powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency helped train the Mumbai attackers," The New York Times said in its news report from Washington.

"But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that no specific links had been uncovered yet between the terrorists and Pakistani government," it said, without providing any further details.

Pakistan has so far refuted Indian allegations, supported by the US, of having harbored these terrorists, who killed 183 people, several of whom were foreign nationals, and claimed that they are non-state actors.

The revelations by a former Defence Department official comes at a time when India has said that it has strong evidence and intelligence information that indicates the Mumbai attackers and their trainers came from Pakistan. It has also asked Pakistan to arrest and send to it 20 people wanted in India for terrorist activities. Pakistan has said that it would not extradite terror suspects.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who was in New Delhi on Wednesday to demonstrate American support to India, urged Pakistan to take on terrorists within its borders.

"We believe Pakistan has a central role to play in this, to make certain that these terrorists cannot continue to operate and operate in this fashion," Rice said in New Delhi.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india; isi; islam; jihad; mumbai; pakistan; wot
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1 posted on 12/03/2008 8:17:00 PM PST by jhpigott
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To: PapaBear3625; publana; RadioCirca1970; TheBlueMax; WLR; iThinkBig; Molly K.; bayouranger; ...

Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

2 posted on 12/03/2008 8:17:47 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: jhpigott

Nice, so now the Pakistan and India ongoing feud might flare up.


3 posted on 12/03/2008 8:21:53 PM PST by livis_dad (The army you say? The army is too harsh, it could make the rioters more inflamed. No pun intented.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Will you add me?

Please and thank you.


4 posted on 12/03/2008 8:22:58 PM PST by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: jhpigott; Ernest_at_the_Beach

former ISI officers may have helped train the Mumbai attackers? I’m shocked.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 8:33:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: jhpigott

POTUS MUZZIE HUSSEIN is connected to the ISI and is sympathetic


6 posted on 12/03/2008 8:34:36 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Indian Muslims are seen during a condolence meeting in Mumbai. India has warned that all options are open in dealing with Pakistan after last week's attacks on Mumbai, as the US pressured Islamabad to show urgent cooperation with the probe. (AFP/Sajjad Hussain)


7 posted on 12/03/2008 8:34:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: jhpigott

“unnamed Pentagon officials”

Once again, the NYT is doing its part to promote journalistic standards of the highest order.


8 posted on 12/03/2008 8:42:56 PM PST by AmericanGirlRising (The cow is in the ditch. We know how it got there. Now help me get it out!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well they were probably “Rogue” former ISI...../s


9 posted on 12/03/2008 9:05:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You seen this yet?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142563/posts


10 posted on 12/03/2008 9:08:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: jhpigott
This story is developing, there is a rumor about, that there is a linkage with active duty ISI officers in this attack.

Also, there are very few "retired" Paki military officers. Many thousands of active duty actually work for private employers. They double-dip, building up what is held in the Paki military as sacred: seniority. After 20 years they are given Paki military land and lots of benefits.

Any "trainers" are likely still on the Paki miltary payrolls.

11 posted on 12/03/2008 9:09:30 PM PST by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: NormsRevenge
NO....sounds good!...

From the blogosphere

> Time To Clear The Pakistani Tribal Swamp Of Pure Evil

12 posted on 12/03/2008 9:19:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: 31R1O

Sure! You’re added.

Just FYI though, given the chaotic nature of Pakistan, the list can be fairly high-volume at times (like now).


13 posted on 12/03/2008 9:20:26 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hellzapoppin’ or will be soon at this rate..

Pakistan is the weakest link it seems in the effort to fight terrorism at its roots.

US wants four ex-ISI officials declared terrorists
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=18775

Thursday, December 04, 2008

By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: The US has given four names of former ISI officials, including Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul, to the UN Security Council to put them on the list of international terrorists.

Government of Pakistan is aware of this move, which is considered here by some as part of an international conspiracy to target the ISI, whose reformation has already been sought by Washington.

—snip—


14 posted on 12/03/2008 9:26:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: jhpigott

The attackers are supposed to have been Al Qaeda guys, although the “Deccan Mujahideen” that claimed responsiblity for the attacks seems to be a basically non-existent organization. Nobody had ever heard of it before this incident.


15 posted on 12/03/2008 9:43:09 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

What is your motivation in protecting these guys? Your stand almost amounts to saying the Pakistani establishment (government, military, ISI) is definitely not involved. Are you sure?


16 posted on 12/03/2008 11:06:08 PM PST by MimirsWell
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To: TBP
The attackers are supposed to have been Al Qaeda guys,

We need to forget about "al-Queda". Al-Queda is just one of the components of the Global Jihad. The point of al-Queda was to be a conduit of funding between a bunch of wealthy donors (the Golden Chain organization) and various jihad groups. Take away al-Queda, and you still have the wealthy donors and the various jihad groups, and new middle organizations will be formed.

The real target is the Global Jihad.

17 posted on 12/04/2008 7:08:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: MimirsWell
Your stand almost amounts to saying the Pakistani establishment (government, military, ISI) is definitely not involved. Are you sure?

No, and I never claimed anythign like that. I simply said that there might be other possibilities, according to some sources over there. Certainly if you ask "qui bono?" ("who benefits?"), the RSS is about the biggest beneficiary of the attack.

18 posted on 12/04/2008 10:25:10 AM PST by TBP
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To: TBP
Certainly if you ask "qui bono?" ("who benefits?"), the RSS is about the biggest beneficiary of the attack

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

That's like saying that the biggest beneficiary of the 9-11 attack were the fundamentalist Christians in the USA. Damn those Christian fundamentalists!

Where do you dudes get your logic from? It's never your fault, is it?

--- Airliner hitting a building - CIA Agents!

--- 9/11: CIA- Mossad conspiracy!

--- Osama Bin Laden: Never existed!

Tell me: why is it never the fault of the Muslim world?

And BTW, your posts reveal for who you are so don't bother giving the usual spiel.

19 posted on 12/04/2008 11:32:56 AM PST by neither-nor
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To: neither-nor
Airliner hitting a building - CIA Agents!

Only loons like you believe that wacky idea. We know very well who carried out the 9/11 attacks. --- 9/11: CIA- Mossad conspiracy!

See above. --- Osama Bin Laden: Never existed!

Where did you ever get that stupid idea? He's either in hiding (DEEP in hiding) or dead. Either way, he is much less effective, thank God.

20 posted on 12/04/2008 12:59:45 PM PST by TBP
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