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Diary discloses debauched lives of Victorian Cambridge students
The Telegraph ^ | 12/3/2008 | Matthew Moore

Posted on 12/03/2008 6:06:02 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Modern students are known for their heavy drinking and sexual exploits, but a Cambridge University diary which has been uncovered suggests that Victorian students were even more debauched.

Charles Astor Bristed, an American who spent five years at Trinity College in the 1840s, described how British undergraduates thought nothing of visiting prostitutes, and revelled in drinking games involving "villainously doctored Cambridge wines".

"There is a careless and undisguised way of talking about gross vice (prostitution)... It is talked of as a thing which is on the whole natural, excusable and perhaps to most men necessary," the grandson of multi-millionaire John Jacob Astor wrote in his diary.

Students who refused to partake were considered "frigid, highly religious", he added, describing his shock at being invited by a fellow student to visit a prostitute "just as quietly as a compatriot might have asked me to take a drink".

Mr Bristed, who was the son of a reverend and raised a strict Puritan, also recorded how he secretly emptied his glass in order to stay sober during drinking contests at his college.

"I stuck to the Hock – or, more critically speaking, to something in a green bottle – the bottle and glass were colored, that was the main point; the colored glass enabled me to fill and empty, in appearance, many times, while in reality I only poured out and tasted a few drops; the result of which stratagem was that two or three of the party put themselves completely hors de combat, and were deeply impressed with a sense of my capacity," he wrote.

But Mr Bristed did not leave with an entirely unfavourable impression of life at a British university; he praised his fellow students for their athletic prowess and their reluctance to gossip.

"I might say that these young

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cambridge; schooldays

1 posted on 12/03/2008 6:06:02 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son!"
-- Dean Vernon Wormer

2 posted on 12/03/2008 6:10:12 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: bruinbirdman
"the son of a reverend, raised a strict Puritan, also recorded how he secretly emptied his glass in order to stay sober during drinking contests at his college."

Reminds me so much of a younger me.

Back before my methamphetamine days...

3 posted on 12/03/2008 6:11:01 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: bruinbirdman; Admin Moderator

Where is your link?


4 posted on 12/03/2008 6:12:08 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." --Thomas Mann)
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To: bruinbirdman

Every generation thinks they invented sex and binge drinking.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 6:16:06 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Albion Wilde
"Where is your link?"

Practice debauchery and visit enough prostitutes, your link will eventually wither and fall off.

6 posted on 12/03/2008 6:16:16 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: bruinbirdman

No surprise - how do they think Bill Clinton spent his Oxford years??


7 posted on 12/03/2008 6:18:28 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Suffer the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: bruinbirdman

Victorian society was very corrupt. Something like every third single woman in London was a prostitute during the nineteenth century. The corruption was hidden behind a veil of excessive propriety and religiousity.


8 posted on 12/03/2008 6:21:13 PM PST by FFranco
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To: bruinbirdman
Read City of Eros for an excellent account of sexual morality in mid-nineteenth century New York. A city filled with young men learning business in counting houses spending their nights carousing in brothels.
9 posted on 12/03/2008 6:27:55 PM PST by Oratam
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To: bruinbirdman
Read City of Eros for an excellent account of sexual morality in mid-nineteenth century New York. A city filled with young men learning business in counting houses spending their nights carousing in brothels.
10 posted on 12/03/2008 6:28:28 PM PST by Oratam
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To: bruinbirdman

“I might say that these young men, so inferior to ours in purity, were superior to them in some other moral qualities; that they minded their own business, and told no lies or scandal of others,” he wrote.

The Illuminati.


11 posted on 12/03/2008 6:30:16 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: Oratam

So it’s more or less like New York today.


12 posted on 12/03/2008 7:24:50 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: bruinbirdman; Grammy; billhilly; jazusamo

HeeHee.

I had aunts who lived the “Great Gatsby” life, who got whupped for doing the Charleston dance. By the time I was old enough to know them, they were sweet little old ladies who would have a hissy fit if you drank a beer or glass of wine.

Years ago, I bought an old Victorian house and remodeled it, in a small, historic east Tennessee town. The big old Victorians were the ones that, at one time, belonged to the upstanding, upper class business owners near the little downtown area, the center of commerce in those days.

One of my neighbors gutted (and renovated)an old house, which, at one time, belonged to a prominent doctor in the town. When they tore out the walls, they found a corsett (sp), and several vials of dried up Morphine stuffed away in between a crack in the walls.

We happened to have another elderly neighbor who lived next door to this house, and he remembered growing up there in the house he inherited from his parents. He said he remembered the doctor’s wife from his childhood, and she was “a really strange lady.”


13 posted on 12/03/2008 7:52:29 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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Hiya Girl, good story.

and she was “a really strange lady.”

Not too surprising if she was using the Docs dope allotment. LOL!

14 posted on 12/03/2008 8:56:10 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: billorites

LOL. Words to the wise.


15 posted on 12/03/2008 9:31:17 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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