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The Pope's Christmas Gift: A Tough Line on Church Doctrine (Time Mag gets testy)
Time ^ | December 3, 2008 | Wednesday, Dec. 03, 2008

Posted on 12/03/2008 10:20:09 AM PST by NYer

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To: SamuraiScot

Check the posting history and you’ll see that it’s a lost cause. The guy is a RINO at best.

Personally, I disagree with many here on the issue of gays, but you’re absolutely right that the correctness of being on “the same side” on any particular issue should have little to do with who is backing it. For example, if Stalin had pushed an international law that prohibited government discrimination based on race, then those in other countries who also supported such laws would be on the same “side” as him in terms of that law and the international battle over it, but not in other senses. Stalin would still be just as evil, but that doesn’t change the right/wrong aspect of a specific proposal.


41 posted on 12/03/2008 11:28:28 AM PST by NinoFan
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To: koraz

That is, technically, his whole job.


42 posted on 12/03/2008 11:29:31 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: NYer

The MSM is in continual surprise that the Pope has Catholic beliefs.


43 posted on 12/03/2008 11:30:45 AM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: OpusatFR
Playing the semantics game isn’t working too well for the homosexual lobby.

Not too surprising for a group that insists on using an exit as an entrance.

44 posted on 12/03/2008 11:36:21 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: mo
Note to TIME....”his view” has nothing toi do with “rigidity” ....now His view..on the otherhand...but you would’nt comprehend.

His (God's) view on murder, robbery, and 8 other sins is also very rigid, do the UN weenies want to make those crimes into "rights" along with sodomy?

No need for an answer, I already know what the Euroweenies and Time's writers and editors believe about Judeo-Christian morality. They hate it precisely because it is rigid, and there is no right or wrong in their atheistic view, only shades of grey.

45 posted on 12/03/2008 11:37:14 AM PST by epow (I'll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep THE CHANGE)
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To: IbJensen

That’s so funny that you mention guitar music. We went to a wedding, and the “band” (I can’t think of a better term) consisted of a couple of guitar players, tambourines, and a flute. About half way through the ceremony, my husband leaned over and whispered, “Are you sure we didn’t accidentally wander into a folk music festival?” Oh, they were awful.


46 posted on 12/03/2008 11:40:50 AM PST by Melpomene
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To: SamuraiScot

Ditto that. A stopped clock is right twice a day.


47 posted on 12/03/2008 12:04:42 PM PST by Jaded
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To: SamuraiScot

“God’s Rottweiler, the Panzercardinal
They forgot one that’s a little newer: the German Shepherd, Benedictus Magnus!”

Being of full German descent myself, I’m happy to finally be able to be proud of my heritage through our Papa.


48 posted on 12/03/2008 12:09:31 PM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: NYer
...there is growing proof that the 82-year-old Pope is also quite willing to play the part of Scrooge to defend his often rigid view of Church doctrine.

Interesting and thoroughly biased choice of words. The Pope has a "rigid view" and plays the part of Scrooge. I would have said that the Pope read the Bible, understood what God said, and believes God's word. Why would a man of God be flexible on whether members of the faith he leads should follow God's word?

49 posted on 12/03/2008 12:17:49 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: OpusatFR
Playing the semantics game isn’t working too well for the homosexual lobby.

Are you saying the homosexual lobby is anti-semantic?

50 posted on 12/03/2008 12:19:46 PM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: EyeGuy

yes


51 posted on 12/03/2008 12:26:21 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

My wife and I left our protestant (UCC) church many years ago when we got fed up with the (liberal) politics. And that was before we even got deeply interested in conservatism. I’d consider a traditionally rooted Catholic church if I could fine one in midcoast Maine. Haven’t done too much exploring yet but one parish’s website stated a dedication to “peace and justice.” Aaargghhh.


52 posted on 12/03/2008 12:38:16 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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Well, it’s December and that means Dec. 25, or Christmas.

That means for the media it is the silly season and you get absurd comments and quotes like the one’s posters have cited.

The Pope is defending the Catholic faith, and to the blinded media that is somehow, unbelievable and reportable, lol. They really are funny.

Don’t let them get you angry, just laugh at them. For the Pople to defend his faith in the Age of Camelot II is heretical to them.


53 posted on 12/03/2008 12:47:27 PM PST by rbmillerjr (2012: A GOP Conservative or I'm out)
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To: verga

“Are you saying the homosexual lobby is anti-semantic?”

LOL!


54 posted on 12/03/2008 1:30:48 PM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: EyeGuy

**the beauty and value of Church doctrine is that it IS rigid.**

I, too, am thankful for this. No wishy washy with Pope Benedict. May God bless him abundantly.


55 posted on 12/03/2008 1:38:14 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

We welcome you.

Call a nearby church and ask about the RCIA classes — Rite Christian Intiation of Adults.


56 posted on 12/03/2008 1:46:14 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NewHampshireDuo; Genoa; SamuraiScot; headstamp 2; RC2; Welcome2thejungle

Are you a Catholic? Would you like to be on the Catholic Ping List?

I do the Daily Readings, prayer requests, Saint of the Day, seasonal things and apologetics/ catechetics/prayer.

There are two Catholic ping lists. NYer usually posts news stories. Please contact her if you want to be on that list also.


57 posted on 12/03/2008 1:48:46 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

am I both lists


58 posted on 12/03/2008 2:10:07 PM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: NYer

I stopped subscribing to Time long ago. So it is impossible for me to cancel my subscription. All I can do is send back the solicitations I get from them with a “no, thank you” on the cards that say that postage will be paid by Time.


59 posted on 12/03/2008 3:23:58 PM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I am convert of 3 years, having come to Catholicism after having been a Methodist, then a Presbyterian, and then a non-denominational church member.

My suggestion to you would be to find a church where the Latin mass is said for one mass. That church will be traditional, and you can sign up for RCIA at that church.

I have never regretted my conversion. My husband followed me into the church a year after I became a Catholic. Best decision we ever made.

In addition to my suggestion about finding a church, watch some programs on EWTN (the Catholic cable channel), listen to some talk shows on Catholic radio, find some traditional Catholic web sites on line.

The Catholic Church is disciplined, consistent, and holds the Truth for those who are seeking. God bless you in your search.


60 posted on 12/03/2008 6:09:01 PM PST by Miss Marple
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